pedophiles going public

No because you would have to show that children are capable of giving consent to anything, the law as it stands is that children cannot give consent to anything. End off.

 

Okay, can you hug a child with his parent's consent?

 

But why? Why when in the face of all the...

...nevermind. I have a better idea.

I want you to read something. This website has stories from the people themselves on what their lives were.

https://www.nspcc.org.uk/what-we-do/childrens-stories-about-abuse/

Read them. Read them all. Sex with a child is rarely the magical experience you seem to think it is. That the reality is far worse than you imagine. I know. My cousin was a therapist who had to help deal with the aftermath of boys and girls who have been through it. I've heard the stories (at least as much as HIPAA would allow) from her. She confided in me so she could get it off of her chest. So she can rant and rave and vent all her anger and frustrations over all the children who would grow up damaged in some way.

All because some adult couldn't/wouldn't seek sexual partners from those emotionally ready for sexual activities.

Read them and then do a web search for "Child Sexual Molestation Stories" and read those.

I think you might then begin to see where my loathing for such activities and the adults who start them come from.

I do agree with you on one thing. Sex is good. Intimacy is good. That level of sharing is good. But where you and I disagree on is that I say that it is only so for people who are physically, mentally, and emotionally ready for such...and that children are not.

 

I am not interested in what laws you want to change, I want you to answer my question. Do you accept children cannot legally consent to anything?

 

Exactly! Unelected pedophiles ***ing elected children, what a nonsense!

 

WTF? Have you ever talked to a survivor of child abuse? It is not correlation, it is harm. As for the depression, substance abuse and suicide of gays, it is not because they are gay, it is because they are not accepted in society by homophobic idiots who have fragile masculinity and a distorted view of their religion.

 

What if you're wrong in what you have no doubt?

 

Not rape, only willing sex.

 

If an unelected liberal judge says children are capable then your opinion on the subject - along with your lealal arguments - are worthless

 

A child has no understanding of sex. How can it be willing?

 

Yes, but if a parent gives that consent, and I as a bystander feel that the hug is inappropriate, then I can ask the state to step in and let them decide. Ultimately only the state can give consent, got that.

 

Pedophiles cannot change the law just as homosexuals could not legalize gay marriage through the legeslative process

The common sense of a majority of Americans would never allow such a crazy change of the law

But unelected liberal judges can make it happen with the stroke of a pen

 

That is true of ANY law, and yet we still function as a society. Why? Because we have checks and balances, set in the Constitution by the founders of this nation. They are the ones who decided that the best way for judges to work is by being appointed instead of elected.

 

Irrelevant, a child cannot give consent for anything.

 

I would give the people the power to recall federal judges with a simple majority on a referendom

 

And completely irrelevant, a child cannot give consent to either a hug or sex. Your argument has no foundation.

 

Oh by the way, I dont think our society is functioning very well anymore since the lib judges started abusing their power through social engineering

 

Rights are not laws.

 

https://www.ipce.info/host/rivas/positive_memories.htm

From your link there are stories about abuse, rape, scaring children, and nothing about consensual, willing sex. These are real victims who needs empathy and help, and those who harmed them has to be punished. You can abuse adults too, it doesn't mean you cannot have consensual relationships with them.

 

The law must conform to rights that are decreed by the unelected liberal judges

 

Absolutely true because they don't have the understanding and judgement that adults have. That is why they cannot sign contracts, smoke or drink alcohol.

 

No. They can consent on many things with the limits, established by their parents.

 

Consensual and willing sex is not an abuse.

 

What?

 

He don't need to understand, but if he want's too, that's a will.