Supreme Court to hear case of baker's refusal to make wedding cake for gay couple

A wedding cake is not just a cake. Stop insulting our intelligence. The baker had made cakes for them before. He just didn't want to be part of their same sex marriage, for his religious beliefs..

He "madeup" nothing.

The gaystapo's days of illegally using the the force of leftist idiots in the few statehouses they control (fewest since 1935) and gay activist judges to FORCE THEIR LIFSTYLE CHOICES INTO OTHER PEOPLES' LIVES ARE OVER.

Get someone else to make your cake.

I know, try the MUSLIM BAKERY DOWN THE STREET....AS IF....

 

That's going to change with the SCOTUS ruling coming up.

 

What is the boundary that separates a right law from a wrong law, says who, and by what authority?

 

If a restaurant can refuse business to anyone it wants to why can't cake owners or photographers do the same? There is many other places someone can go for cakes. We should not be forced to set aside our christian beliefs just because a gay couple wants to cry when they don't get their way.

 

We ARE NOT, as the USSC will make clear, shortly. State laws to the contrary are UN-Constitutional...

 

"If" being the operative word. Do you have source citation of a case where a gay person was refused service at a restaurant just because they were gay, took it to court and lost?

As a business in not a religion it is subject to the law of the government. What if any limit should be placed upon freedom of religion?

 

The law of the government is the US Constitution ,and it clearly states that peoples' practice of their religion SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED UPON....whether or not they own a business.

 

What limits if any should be placed upon religous freedoms?

 

I remember a restaurant owner refusing service to OJ Simpson. If he can do that then why can't they refuse service to anyone?

 

My christian beliefs will not change just because a gay couple can't their way. Sorry but you always get what you want in life. They should quit crying and move on. The world does not cater to gay people just because they want to act like cry babies.

If they want a cake there is plenty of other places they can go to. It's not fair a cake owner has to close shop just because of 2 upset people.

 

"If" again being the operative word. Why was Simpson denied service? Did it go to court and did Simpson loose? Do you have source citation? If not then your argument is a false equivalency.

 

The case is not about gays trying to change Christians beliefs, it is about gays being denied service simply because they are gay and a bakery that believes that it should not have to serve gays due to religious freedoms.

Why is it that they should back down?

Life is not fair and what is seen as fair is subjective.

So what if any limits should there be on religious freedom?

 

It was on the news years ago and I looked it up and confirmed it. OJ was asked to leave and he simply said "I understand" and left.

It's all over the internet. Why can't you do a google search if you think I am lying? Even Fox News talks about it online.

http://www.nysun.com/national/oj-simpson-kicked-out-of-restaurant/54179/

So if OJ can get kicked out of a restaurant for being OJ why can't a baker refuse to bake a cake for a gay couple?

 

Again I am a christian. God made the laws not me. I feel if I support gay marriage in any way I am turning my back on God. I have no problem baking a cake for a gay couple but if it is for a wedding I draw the line. I don't think you would understand but I must stay true to my beliefs. I work with gay people and they don't offend me at all and come off as nice people. My problem is not with them. As human beings I love them. My entire problem is with gay marriage. I can love the people but I should not have to support the sin.

 

Then the above is a false equivalency.

"If" again being the operative word. I do not think you are lying, but I do think that if you make a claim, that you should back your claims with source citation upon request rather than expecting others to source your argument for you.

False equivalency.

 

A great argument if one lived in Vatican City the worlds only Christian theocracy, but in America we have a secular government.

As do I.

Fair enough.

 

Where does the bible say you can't sell cakes for gay weddings? How is this a religious right, and not just hating on people who don't follow your religious rules?

 

Matthew 19:4-6 - He said to them, “Have you not read that He Who made them in the first place made them man and woman? 5 It says, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will live with his wife. The two will become one.’ 6 So they are no longer two but one. Let no man divide what God has put together.”

While the New Testament can be interpreted and being ambiguous on homosexuality, it's quite specific what constitutes marriage.

 

You start with the premises found in the US Constitution, among which are Private Property Rights and Freedom of Association. Starting a private business does not mean giving up these rights.

 

This is the wrong argument, at least in this context. The basis here is Freedom of Association and Private Property Rights. I am free to not associate with whomever, for whatever reasons, including religious one. It is also within my rights to limit who is allowed on my property for whatever reasons, including religious one. My religious freedoms is what allows me to choose which religion I am, even if it ends up being a religion of one.

 

This is a false equivalency, at least for the point you are making. There is no religious reasoning here, nor is there even a racial one. The story does highlight my point of what the real freedoms and rights being exercised are, but it does not support your argument towards the use of religious freedom.

 

Pretending that baking a cake is forbidden by "Christian beliefs" is BS.

Again there are Christian churches whose Christian ministers marry Christian same-sex couples, and attempting to play the religion card to discriminate fails because no Christian sect proscribes cake-baking, and Christian bakers in the business of baking cakes for the public bake cakes without becoming verklempt about where they go after they are sold all the time.

 

A CHRISTIAN church cannot wed those who engage in gay sex. Despite what you try and assert, there is no thing as gay weddings in a CHRISTIAN church. I can claim to be 6 foot 4 but it won't make it so.

 

As one example, the Episcopal Church, at their 2015 Seventy-eighth General Convention, decreed “in the wake of the June 26 U.S. Supreme Court ruling legalizing same-sex marriage for all Americans, General Convention followed suit on July 1 with canonical and liturgical changes to provide marriage equality for Episcopalians.” A canonical change eliminated “language defining marriage as between a man and a woman” and “two new marriage rites with language allowing them to be used by same-sex or opposite-sex couples.” http://episcopaldigitalnetwork.com/...-wrap-up-historic-actions-structural-changes/

The Episcopal Church is just one of a number of Christian denominations that has eliminated gender discrimination from their liturgy and regularly weds same-sex couples.

 

again, I can claim to be 6 foot 4, but it doesn't make it so. To go against the Bible is NOT Christian.

Attempts to normalize deviant sexual behavior are being exposed for what they are. If you're going to normalize deviant sexual behavior then you should do it for all deviant sexual behaviors. Why is gay-sex the only deviant sexual act that you wish to support and not all of the others?