Republicans Become the Donner Party

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    You're being very silly.
     
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    No, an election isn't a poll, it's an election. Unless you think that we should just take a small sample and extrapolate out from there instead of an actual election.

    Not my messiah, I can't stand Clinton.
     
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    What does this have to do with the OP? Wait......Oh yeah....I guess 'ignored members' aren't shown. Ha Ha
     
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    Wrong. A US election is also a poll.

    poll: 1) an activity in which several or many people are asked a question or a series of questions in order to get information about what most people think about something

    2) the record of votes that were made by people in an election

    3) the number of votes made in an election​

    Yet you appear to venerate the temperamentally-unstable narcissist who boasts that his celebrity licenses him to grab women by the p***y, whist most Americans now think he stinks.
     
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    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh look, another stoopid lefty loony-toon-ville cartoon.
     
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    The hit dog yelps.
     
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    Well white working class voters are still the majority and it would be smart for democrats to figure that out.
     
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    Politico is out with a story just now about Chris Christie inviting Trump to his infamous NJ beach house --

    along with this fabbbbulous picture of Christie

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    giving Trump a hand job.
     
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    While the Democrat party starves to death while waiting for free stuff.
     
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    You are clearly confused. The wealthiest elite hope the GOP will succeed in a windfall transfer of wealth up the wazzoo.
     
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    I think you're absolutely correct. In a recent poll only 35% of registered voters thought the Democratic Party stood for something, 54% think the Democratic Party was just the anti-Trump Party without standing for anything else.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/page...uestion_18939.xml?uuid=TwsZhmnbEeeUq1sfD_RZ3w

    The voters don't like neither congressional party also. Giving congressional Democrats a 34% favorable vs. 50% unfavorable. That is darn good when comparing that to the Republicans, 23% favorable vs. 62% unfavorable. Throw in the generic congressional poll which gives and Democrats an 8 point advantage along with Trump's 38% approval rating, plus a few other factors. I do think if the election were held today the Democrats stand a better than a 50-50 chance of regaining the House. The senate is another matter, of the 9 seats the Republican have up for re-election next year, 7 appear safe. Only Arizona and Nevada could change hands. The Democrats have 25 seats up next year, Indiana, Missouri, North Dakota, Montana could switch. I also wonder about Manchin from West Virginia who is also up, whether he will switch parties. Manchin is way out of place with today's Democratic Party. 20 years ago, he would have fit right in, that tells you how much the Democratic Party has moved to the left.
     
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    Manchin would have been right in line with pre-Johnson Southern (Yellow Dog) Democrats. The migration to the GOP by Southern Whites was a huge shift, and if Manchin were to switch, he'd only be a Johnny-come-lately in that mass defection.

    I suspect he'll stick with the Democrats if they return to advocacy of the working class.

    The much-maligned Hillary Clinton got it half right when she spoke of these alienated Democrats:

    "But the other basket -- and I know this because I see friends from all over America here -- I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas -- as well as, you know, New York and California -- but that other basket of people are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they're just desperate for change. It doesn't really even matter where it comes from. They don't buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won't wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroin, feel like they're in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well."

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/polit...n-s-full-remarks-as-1473549076-htmlstory.html
     
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    How does one protect jobs in the face of advancing technology, robotics, computers etc. that mean less and less people are needed? 50-60 years ago an automobile manufacture, his plant may have needed 1,000 or more workers. Today maybe a hundred or less due to computers and robotics. Around where I grew up, there must have been 30-40 family farms. 100 or so acres. Today all that land has been bought up by just a couple of farmers or corporations with their two story, air conditioned tractors and 20 row corn pickers and gigantic harvesters. The assembly line worker made good money, family farms were a good hard living. Not everyone can be a computer guru or a doctor or a lawyer. So where do we go from here?

    Is the human worker becoming obsolete? Even McDonalds is playing around with kiosks and robot help. Reminds me of one of those old Twilight zone episodes. Where the librarian became obsolete.
     
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    I only think of a poll by its first definition. I guess you win that one.


    And I think it's safe to say that you, and those like you, that suffer from paranoid delusions that could be realistically be categorized as schizophrenic. But let's not get into name calling and just stick with facts.
     
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    Not obsolete, just overpriced. There will always be jobs for those willing to work and gain the skills that are needed. Those that aren't willing to put in the work will, and should be, left on the side of the road.
     
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    It is scary.

    People are becoming redundant. Promising miners to revive the coal industry as natural gas displaces it is like telling harpooners that whaling will be the next big thing, again.

    There will have to be a brand new paradigm for the economy if society is going to continue to work, and I'm not going to pretend that I can envision what that'll be.
     
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    Your ad hominem is noted - regarding me and "those like you". i.e., the majority of Americans.
     
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    Me neither. Hopefully whatever it is, it is better than killing off all the obsolete humans ala Twilight Zone.
     
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    That is said every time the presidency changes hands and every time it proves to be wrong. As the party in power fails to actually deliver on it's promises to the lower and middles classes the born suckers turn blindly to believing the promises of the other party. And so the wheel turns.
     
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    I agree. This is because of oligarchs and the Deep State that has way too much power. Clinton, Bush, obama, etc...were nothing but puppets. President Trump is not a puppet. His policies are not in the best interests of the special interests, hence all the hatred and vitriol against Trump.
     
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    :roflol:

    If "Trump is not a puppet", than neither are Kermit or Miss Piggy, Etc.

    Trump not a puppet? :roflol:

    He barely has enough brains to tie his own shoes, while his marionette master (Vlad) gets ready to pull Lil' Donnie's strings.

    Trump not a puppet? :roflol:
     
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    :alcoholic:
     
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    Ever notice how it is only the shallow thinkers of the extremist alt right that regurgitate the moronic "deep state" nonsense?
     
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    The key word is , moronic
     
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