Regulating Guns

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We need little chit chat on gun regulation. Either you think humans do not deserve a gun or you believe they do. Guns are a named right. Yet despite that, many will claim guns are not a right. NY city certainly has draconian laws. So beware of going there and taking along a gun. Try not to think of NY State as a bully state will you? Try to think of them as they lock up a housewife with a gun, as just a nice state.

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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    States have the authority to decide who does and doesn't carry a handgun
     
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    They certainly have the power to regulate concealed carry. Prohibiting both concealed carry and open carry definitely violated the right of the individual to keep and bear arms.
     
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    That's a violation of the second amendment.
     
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    Based on the information above, she should be protected by federal law that allows people to transport a firearm into or through another state.
     
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    The peaceable journey law is limited to travel from one legal jurisdiction to another, staying at a hotel in a State not legal, is not covered as far as I know.
    Even stops for fuel and food etc... are defined.
     
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    I did something similar earlier this year - drove to MD with my carry gun.
    I unloaded and boxed it prior to entering the state as per MD law and kept it in the hotel safe.
    If you are traveling to/from your residence, you are covered - the hotel is your residence during your stay.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Even CA lets you travel through with a firearm and keep it in ur hotel. When ur more restrictive than CA, you know ur F'd up.

    F NY.
     
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    Federal law supersedes state and local laws when pertaining to firearms.
     
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    This is correct. Staying overnight is not covered. I believe it should be, but it isn't.
     
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    they have to do this every now and then to hide their inability to deal with real criminals
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Were you the one handing them the authority?
     
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    Sounds like NY are enforcing their gun regulations.

    Good on them.
     
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    I find the sudden discovery of the constitution and states rights to be a shocking and amusing development
     
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    The inconsistencies between state's rights to regulate guns and state's rights to regulate gay marriage and abortion are intriguing, especially given McDonald vs. City of Chicago.
     
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    the supreme court disagrees
     
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    Here is what I would like to see banned.

    I would like to ban any clause in any gun regulation, whether new or existing, exempting law enforcement, or any local, state, or federal government agencies from the regulation with the exception of military.

    You would be hard pressed here in California to see a cop car or cop motorcycle without an ar-15 and 20 rd mag in it. And of course no bullet button.
     
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    Heller addresses concealed carry restrictions by the state; I'm not aware of any SCOTUS ruling that supports blanket restrictions of open carry.
     
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    I didn't say there was. The poster I quoted said any restriction on carrying is a violation of the 2nd amendment. I pointed out the supreme court disagrees.
     
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    The OP was "States have the authority to decide who does and doesn't carry a handgun". That's a description of a state's power to completely restrict carrying a handgun. Completely banning concealed and open carry would seem to violate the Constitutional protection of "keep and bear arms".
     
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    I'm not certain it would. It seems a matter the supreme court would need to review.

    Regardless, my post was addressing another poster, who was incorrect.
     
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    IIRC, he stated that "States have the authority to decide who does and doesn't carry a handgun" would violate the Constitution, as a complete ban on carrying handguns would.
     
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    no, it doesn't. States can decide the criteria for concealed carry. The courts have not heard a case or ruled on the issue of open carry.
     
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    Except for the fact that it was not concealed carry that was at issue. Rather it was possessing a legally owned firearm inside a locked case, in a manner that complied with federal transportation requirements.
     
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    Don't do anything with NY. Don't travel there, don't pass through, don't take a flight that stops in NY. Don't buy from NY businesses.

    Where I work, the company will neither buy from nor sell to any business in NY (or the NY state govt).
     
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