Thousands rally against Israel in Istanbul

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    An Palestinians will need all the financial support they can get, now that US may likely to withhold its financial help. Brrrrrring it in, Celtic fans, open your pockets - Palestinians must pay them salaries to all these righteous terrorists :hug:
     
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    As I clarified earlier, I am not against a "Homeland" for the Jewish people that is genuinely equitable in its treatment of other religions, ethnic groups and adheres to legitimate, pre 1967 borders.
    Like most of the rest of the planet, I am opposed to Zionism's bigotry, ethnic cleansing and relentless expansionism as exemplified by Israel''s current Right Wing, Zionist Regime.
    Additionally, the Canaanites were not the only non Jewish / non Christian ethnic group who predated Levantine Jews and Christians and later converted to Islam.

    If you think your affinity for the Zionist Regime is reciprocated, think again:

    "WHAT DO ISRAELIS THINK ABOUT AMERICANS? START WITH DISDAIN"

    http://forward.com/news/israel/216074/what-do-israelis-think-about-americans-start-with/

    EXCERPT " Though Israel is a famously fractious society, Israelis tend to agree on one thing: Their strongest supporters are an inherently dupable people.

    “Most Israelis think Americans are pro-Israel and we can sell them anything, especially mud from the Dead Sea,” said David Lifshitz, the lead writer for the Israeli comedy show “Eretz Nehederet,” or “Wonderful Land.”

    “Or — just regular mud with a ‘Dead Sea’ sticker on it.”

    But it’s not just American tourists whom many Israelis see as guileless. American foreign policy is held up to similar scrutiny here, even as Israel receives billions of dollars in foreign aid from the United States each year.

    The naivete Israelis perceive in Americans is not just something they believe only Israel’s adversaries exploit; Israelis believe they can do so, too — and do. In a secretly recorded video of a 2001 discussion with a group of terror victims in the Ofra settlement in the Israeli occupied West Bank, now-Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu laid out this widely held perception.

    “I know what America is,” Netanyahu, told the settlers. “America is a thing that can be easily moved, moved in the right direction. CONTINUED
     
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    It sounds like you too were happy about 9/11 as long as it led to a war on Islam for Israel's benefit.

    I'm sure it would surprise you to find that Muslims (members of the OIC) are less bloodthirsty than non Muslims (non members of the OIC) especially: "In a regional breakdown, Gallup found that North Americans were most likely to justify military attacks on civilians, while residents of the MENA (Middle East and North Africa) region were most likely to oppose them." (see below)

    You should know that the British had foreknowledge of the Pearl Harbor attack yet chose not to share it thus ensuring America's entry into WW 2.

    "Muslim attitudes toward terrorism"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_attitudes_toward_terrorism

    EXCERPT "A Gallup poll published in 2011, "suggests that one's religious identity and level of devotion have little to do with one's views about targeting civilians."[27] The results of the survey suggested that "human development and governance - not piety or culture" were the strongest factors in explaining the public's view of violence toward civilians.[27] In a Gallup World Poll in 2011, residents of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) member states were less likely to justify the targeting and killing of civilians than residents of non-OIC states:[27]

    • In Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) member states, 18% believe military attacks on civilians justified and 14% believe individual attacks on civilians justified.
    • In non-OIC states, 24% believe military attacks on civilians justified and 17% believe individual attacks on civilians justified.
    In a regional breakdown, Gallup found that North Americans were most likely to justify military attacks on civilians, while residents of the MENA (Middle East and North Africa) region were most likely to oppose them.…CONTINUED
     
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    I doubt that some old man that has been living in the US for years is behind any plots against the Turkish government. When he was in Turkey and establishing his secular schools, Erdogan was still on the same page with him.

    IMO Erdogan just wants a scapegoat so he can brush off the implications of a widespread coup attempt.
     
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    Your incitement of potential terrorists is noted.
     
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    How about the Jew stop ethnic cleansing civilians in an other country, and return with their Israeli citizenship back to Israel? How about that, ey? It is them Jews backed up by the regime of Israel who are inciting those civilians to respond.
     
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    Your willingness to support questionable viewpoints in order to attack Jews is noted.
     
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    I'll ignore for now the logical fallacies and falsehoods in your post. I'll just ask you to answer some questions:

    1.Why did Egypt recruit, train, and send terrorists in Israel starting from the '50s, long before the six day war?

    2. Why did Arab Palestinians cross into Israel - from what is now called the West Bank and was then in Jordan - to commit terror attacks against Israeli civilians starting from the '50s, long before the six day war, the settlements, the right wing government?

    3. Why was the PLO founded in 1964?
     
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    Your willingness to support civilians being ethnic cleansing by a group who move beyond their borders to do so, to thieve the land for their people, -and this is against the will of THE ENTIRE WORLD and international law- and call the resistance terrorism... is noted.

    Your fascist like idea's you express on this forum about untermenschen is also noted.
     
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    Don't hold your breath.
     
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    You mean...
    You're just never minding the topic and the arguments that you can't rebuke. So you start to troll off topic and derail an other thread you can't win.

    Do note. I'm waiting for you to answer why the Jew with it's Israeli citizenship can't go back to Israel and stop harassing and ethnic cleansing civilians on the other side of their border.... as what the entire world demands you lot to do.
     
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    This is why being old can be fruitful, because if you live long enough you get to hear the same BS couched in new ways; "if only the jews would do this....", "if only Israel would do that..."

    The excuses over the decades change, but the justification by what I would call the mentally ill, the jew haters, the arab muslim terror apologists, etc. continue onward no matter what Israel does or does not do. Before the occupation I remember how these same dishonest frauds were claiming it was the existence of Israel that was the problem, because it "had no business being in the "arab middle east", as if no one else was allowed to live or be sovereign there. These were the same bottom-feeders making this racist claim while attacking others for being racist, i.e., those who supported Israel.

    Bottom line is that these people will attack Israel and come up with BS excuses no matter what. If Israel vacated the entire west bank today, and was attacked by terrorists tomorrow, they'd have a new set of illegitimate, nonsensical excuses trying to justify the terrorist filth.

    There are people who simply hate jews, hate that Israel is powerful and can defend itself, and will try to undermine it for the rest of their failed lives. They will continue to hate and rage and rant - while Israel and its allies continue to succeed and win. I'm decades past concerning myself with the filth of humanity which these people represent, and know that they have been on the losing end for 75 years, and will continue to lose for another 7,500.
     
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    Before the occupation the Israeli Jew ethnic cleansed well over 700.000 civilians, and banned them form returning home because they aint Jew. And than the Israeli Jew continues to do is ethnic cleanse civilians across their borders to thieve those lands as well.

    When the ENTIRE WORLD demands you lot to quit that, and say all your little thieving Jew colonies across the borders are illegal,.. than it really is not the case that the entire world are mentally ill, the jew haters, the arab muslim terror apologists. The problem is the average Israeli jew voting in politicians with always thieving ethnic cleansing policies, while they join the IDF en mass to make those geneva convention violations happen.
     
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    In fact it has been Muslims who have been committing genuine 'ethnic cleansing', not the fake stuff you keep referring to, and of course all you need do is look at a map of the Middle East to understand that it is the Muslims who have been been carrying out a "relentless expansion' since arriving several centuries after the Jews and Christians. Are you really not aware of any of this??Have you never seen a map of the Middle East and understood which religion controls most of it?

    Are you also not aware that the Muslims have been murdering off other religions in the area, even attacking them internationally, and destroying their places of worship, as well as destroying their religious artefacts?

    To not know any of this requires a level of ignorance so profound that it begs the question of how people can ignore history, reality and believe whatever distorted propaganda comes their way. We've seen this scenario played out repeatedly throughout history and yet it still comes as something of a shock to see it being propagated first hand.



     
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    Yeppers, Zionists gotta stick together, because that's the only support those terrorist have.
     
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    Please don't go by what anything 'sounds like'. You have such very limited knowledge of actual historical events that guessing at what a written paragraph 'sounds like' only makes you appear more foolish.
     
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    Too bad the world isn't a democracy or we'd be talking about who outnumbers who. :omfg:
     
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    Explain that to the British
     
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    You said that all the terror attacks are the result of the occupation. I proved you wrong, so now I'm suddenly trolling. You were sayin' about arguments one can't rebuke...?

    I never answer leading and loaded questions. You'll have to prove your premises first. If you can.

    The world turned against Israel after the oil embargoes of the 70s. The most affected country - Holland - is still funding anti-Zionist NGOs in Israel.
     
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    I DID NOT say anything about an old man being behind any plots. Read my post again.

    Look, whenever you start a discussion within a discussion with me, and then get the replies you deserve which surface your level of ignorance about the subject, you immediately bird away... Make sure this time you stay OK?

    Let's talk about ""KASNAZANI"" of Iraq because you ""MUST BE"" knowing pretty much everything about it to be able to ""DOUBT"" that an old man that has been living in the US for years is behind any plots against some government.

    Awaiting your reply !
     
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    Nonesense, Pisa simply proved that all you Arabs care about is Israel destruction, always did and probebly always will, you only excuse the fued not really hoping to stop it - and so we'll continue to do what's best for us.

    And do keep in mind that while you raise your kids to murder ppl and gain Sweden support for it - we get IKEA and jobs and actually do move ahead with our lives.
     
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    Never heard of him. I looked up the name and a dervish was described.

    I just got up to get a snack of some leftover cornbread I made so I am not prepared to do battle with someone ensconced in the Mideast with multiple life-or-death agendas...

    I only know about the one expat because he lives in a modest house in my state, I've seen px of him, and he looks too elderly to remember what he said yesterday, IMO. Although Erdogon obviously has some real enemies somewhere, he is not going to improve his image with anyone sane by dragging retired old men who built nice schools into the battle.

    Here is the cornbread recipe:

    1 cup yellow cornmeal 2 eggs

    1 cup Bisquick or equivalent 1 cup milk

    1/4 cup cooking oil

    1/4 cup sugar

    Mix dry ingredients together then add the liquid ones, including the eggs, just enough to thoroughly moisten everything, then pour into a preheated cast iron fry pan and cook in an oven preheated to 400 degrees Fahrenheit.

    I use Quaker cornmeal.

    This recipe makes a much better cornbread than the ones that can be made from commercial cornbread mixes, etc. It will last for several days, and can be refrigerated to last even longer. Great for snacks and to accompany soups or salads.

    So if you talk about Kas whoever I will read your post tomorrow when I am awake. In the meantime, may you live long and prosper, but don't blow anyone up.
     
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    That's because there are more Israeli terrorist than there are Muslim terrorist per capita.
     
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    Oh it goes way beyond that.
     
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    lol sure, now run off to applegize Paris terror attack I think there is a thread cooking over the low % of Muslim terrorists again :)
     

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