So, you are of the opinion that people who confessed to being witches under torture in the Middle Ages were, indeed, witches??? Torture is for cowards and cannot be depended on to get the truth. If there are truth serums, I'd be okay with using that.
That depends on the terrorist and the method of torture. In a situation where lots of innocent lives are at stake, you really have nothing to lose by trying to make him or her talk.
Sure he would. I think there are very few parents in the world that would not get medieval on someone when it comes to protecting their children.
Actually you have a lot to lose if you violate the Law of the Land using illegal methods. The detainees at Gitmo cannot be given a proper trial because the Bush/Cheney regime illegally tortured them thereby violating their rights and making any confessions by them inadmissible in court. Furthermore none of that illegal torture yielded anything of any value whatsoever. Instead it just became an ugly stain on the reputation of this nation.
Taking the law into your own hands will probably end up resulting in the death of the child in question under this scenario. Bringing in the FBI and all of their resources would be far more effective. They could track down his recent movements, associates, residences, purchases, etc, etc and then conduct an effective interrogation knowing when he was lying and when he was telling the truth.
As we have seen many times in the past, that depends on who is violating the law and who finds out. Besides, we're talking about a reason to change the law. I'm skeptical of that claim. I'm not so sure about this claim either. It's in the eye of the beholder.
The background investigation gives the FBI places to search and other people to contact who might know where he could have the child. That is way more information than you would have just by illegally torturing the suspect and you won't get any of that out of him either using torture. The FBI is ahead of the game because they will have found out about his family and what he cares about and what motivates him. They will know which buttons to push and how to manipulate him into talking. It is perfectly legal for them to lie to him and tell him that his mother was just taken to hospital and is currently in the ICU. They can say that will let him go and see her if he gives up the location of the child. That is how proper investigators use the intelligence that they have at their disposal to LEGALLY learn what they need to know.
Ok, you don't believe it works, but I don't think your arguments are persuasive. We're not arguing about the legality, we're arguing about the efficacy.
Torture is illegal because it doesn't work. Since you are fallaciously alleging that torture does work the onus is entirely on YOU to PROVE that it does.
It is said that torture is illegal, but that doesn't really mean anything. Since when does the law stop our politicians from doing anything illegal? They just say it's illegal so people that would be bothered by it can sleep at night. Our government uses torture for some reason, and my guess is because it works. It sounds like YOU need to CONVINCE them.
You are asserting an unsupported premise and then using that to draw a conclusion not supported by most experts, and further use that to issue a strawman.
Agreed. I've seen torture be a useful tool for gathering information. Confessions on the other hand, are pointless. Even if you do not know whether or not the captive is guilty. Their responses are always geared towards only getting themselves out of the situation.
It's definitely an interesting question. I wonder if there are circumstances in which a person would torture another person. For me, if a person harmed my child, then I might want to torture him or her, or if my child was kidnapped and I was sure the person knew where he was. Maybe if there was going to be a terrorist attack that was going to kill a bunch of people, like another 9/11. All of these things would make me think about it. I don't know if I could actually torture a person though. Imagine what it takes to torture another person, as they are screaming and crying? Must not be an easy thing to do unless you are kind of a psychopath. Lol.
Sleep deprivation is highly effective. Though for many Islamic terrorists, the threat of pork force feeding or losing their "manhood", physically or chemically, as punishment for giving false information is also quite effective.
Hello again ChrisL. To answer your question, it isn't so much about being a psychopath as much as being commited to a cause. Whether it's Americans defending their homeland, or independent soldiers in a war for change. Also, good for you, it is the right way for a mother to be in my opinion, at least. While I've never tortured anyone myself, I suppose if I hated someone enough it might not be hard to do. You should go through with your plan to create a thread about the subject. It would be an interesting topic.
Precisely. Sometimes unpopular measures must be taken for the greater good despite all the loony lefties bellyaching about them.
