NSA Experts Say DNC ‘Hack’ Was Actually a Leak and Inside Job

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    My mistake. I could swear though that it was you who said Manifort complied with every document request.
     
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    Actually there was significant intel that said Iraq did not have a nuke program or a chemical weapons program. Not to mention the UN inspectors who could find no evidence. Chaney/ Bush wanted war and ignored all evidence that didn't agree with what they needed to justify the war

    So no you really can't use Bush's folly to discredit the American intel agencies.
     
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    See you're back to Manafort. NOT the issue. ISSUE: DNC server not analyzed by US intel. ISSUE: you claim 3rd party analyticals are holy scripture that support US intel assessment. ISSUE: pattern of obstruction, and shielding cyber criminals.
     
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    You should visit the Mueller thread near the tail end of it. It would be amusing if not so sad.
     
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    There is also Intel saying dnc hack was inside job. How would anyone know? Cloud strike is paid to produce the results the customer is paying for.
     
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    You're flapping your trap without ever having seen one shred of evidence.
     
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    It's like OJ hiring a private eye to find Nicole's killer. :roflol:
     
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    The funny thing is that the establishment worshipers by it Hook Line & Sinker. They are so brainwashed it truly pathetic.
     
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    Oh yeah. The posts on this forum confirm that. Crowdstrike smacks not only of a false flag but a cover up as well.
     
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    They believe clown strike is clean and pure like Hillary and the dnc.
     
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    Interesting link. You would think that the senate intelligence committee (or whomever has oversight there) would require the intelligence agencies to produce concrete proof there was Russian hacking with regard to the DNC servers. I don't doubt that Russia attempts to hack data, not sure how successful they are as plenty of COMPETENT agencies have foiled such attempts but we all know Podesta's password was password so it's doubtful that the DNC administrator sufficiently protected data withIN the organization. I would think congress would call in the intelligence agencies and then compare their finding and review them with non-partisan objective experts. Do I think that will actually happen? Hell no. Trump has enemies in the Republican ranks, not to mention the nut jobs across the aisle.
     
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    Lol, the point is that not all of them have said it was the Russians. Jesus.
     
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    How do we know? Did they also use an outdated malware, traceable IP, and impossible transfer speeds, or ous this magical propaganda plot ploy special when it comes to supposed Russian cyber attacks.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veteran_Intelligence_Professionals_for_Sanity

    July 2017 memo
    Main articles: 2016 Democratic National Committee email leak, Democratic National Committee cyber attacks, and Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections
    On July 24, 2017, VIPS released a memorandum for President Donald Trump arguing that forensic evidence was inconsistent with claims by U.S. intelligence and CrowdStrike that the 2016 Democratic National Committee email leak was the result of a Russian hack, stating instead "that a locally executed leak is the far more likely explanation."[7] The memorandum was cited in an article in The Nation by Patrick Lawrence, which repeated the claims made by the organization.[8] Brian Feldman, writing in the New York Magazine described the article's claims as "too incoherent to even debunk" and noted that it was written in "techno-gibberish" which didn't make any sense.[9]
     
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    Something I forgot to add. I've read that Ukraine is interested in pinning hacking on Russia. I don't know if that has validity but it's out there. Soros has ties and eyes for Ukraine.
    It's really impossible to tell since the DNC effectually erased all of the footprints and passive/aggressively obstructed justice by not allowing law enforcement to observe all the evidence. It's something that isn't unusual in insurance fraud cases.
     
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    But... but this board is full of old and aging Liberals, who according to you should all be Conservatives. What are they? :juggle:
     
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    Yep, at least in a psych ward folks are honest about thier delusions.
     
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    It's so difficult to understand why who is doing what. You have the DNC who were were first told refused to allow the FBI to examine their servers, later there was a backstroke, but then it was learned that no, the FBI never examined the servers.

    Then you have them using the Pakistani Crime Family for their IT, some whispers that this crime family has links to Hezbollah and were blackmailing members of Congress, some of which served on both Foreign Relations and Intelligence committees, so key folks. You have the fight between Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who headed the DNC, fighting with the Capital Police over whether they could take possession of the Pakistani IT Crime Guy's computer, and she kept him on her payroll at inflated rates, his family members, also at inflated rates for no show jobs, and she had made arrangements to keep him on payroll, even after he fled to Pakistan, with another $300k swindled out of the House Bank. The only reason he still isn't collecting a paycheck, from the US taxpayers, while residing in Pakistan is because the FBI arrested him at Dulles Airport.

    So if something is funky with the DNC servers, quite frankly, I would be looking at them, not the Trump campaign.

    And, Obama knew there were problems with Russians trying to get into both the DNC and RNC servers, knew they had penetrated the DNC servers, and no one told Debbie Wasserman Schultz, for a year, she finally found out through other channels. So there is intrigue multiplied by intrigue, but hey, let's investigate Trump!

    They are fooling no one, especially the Electorates of 30 Plus States that total 306 ECV and who selected Trump to President of the United States. Removing him from office will simply look like a DC coup in league with the minority 20 states. The backlash would be unimaginable, and quite frankly will never occur.

    There is no desire to get to the truth.
    There is no desire to find out what actually happened, as the criminal trail very likely runs straight through "Who's Who" in the DNC, The Democrat Party and The Obama administration. But, as a foil to explain their extensive spying on the Trump Campaign, the "scandal" has actually worked pretty well for the Democrats.

    But, they are not mounting effective arguments against Trump's actions and he is quietly getting a great deal done, and they are not making effective arguments for supporting them in the 2018 and 2020 elections. It reminds me of the GOP coasting along behind Ken Starr figuring they would mop up in the 1998 elections in the wake of the Lewinsky scandal, instead there was a backlash and the GOP took a bit of a beating in the mid-terms.
     
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    Collectivist don't care that the DNC is corrupt. They know it is and they give it a total pass. Leftist don't hold other leftist accountable for their actions. They never have and never do. The collectivist are more mad that the DNC got caught rigging and cheating then they are that the DNC was riggng and cheating. That pretty much says it all.

    They have zero standard, zero class, and zero credibility.
     
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    They think much differently than The American Electorate. They don't recognize inalienable rights pre-existing government, the authority of the Constitution, or even the existence of a reality that is independent from their view. And they do seem to view government as a no holds barred quest for the power to control others, not the restrained regulation to govern the interactions of a self ruled, right filled people, operating in close quarters with one another, where our rights are only regulated at the points where they clash with one another.

    But, to me, it appears they are only furthering isolating themselves from the American Electorate. Trying to force men into the girl's shower rooms was a real "Now I'm Woke!" moment for the American Electorate.

    Check out this “Video [of] Democrats shouting down the “wrong sort” of Democrats at NN17,” [Net Roots 2017] so this is Blue on Blue:

    One of the incidents this week deserves at least a brief look however, since it speaks volumes about the current state of the Democratic Party and the schism currently taking place there. One of the scheduled speakers at the event was Stacey Evans, a member of the Georgia House of Representatives and a candidate in the Democratic primary race for Governor of that state. It’s important to say that Ms. Evans was a scheduled speaker, because she didn’t get the chance to do very much actual speaking.

    Nobody was saying a thing about Evans’ policies, voting record or insufficiently progressive positions. The chants were all about “Support Black Women.” In case you haven’t picked up on this yet, Evans is white and one of her opponents in the primary, Stacey Abrams is black. That’s the entire difference. In fact, when one of the AJ-C reporters caught up with the protesters to ask about their opposition to Evans, they couldn’t come up with a thing.

    And that’s just how the man who is the deputy chairman of the Democratic Party likes it.
     
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    unfortunately they have good company on the other side of the aisle.
     
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    They naturally defend their actions and give them a total pass because they know that if they were there they would do the same or worse. It's part of having zero standards and zero class
     
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    And one party
     
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    I like that " honest delusions"
     

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