A man was fired from his job after a photo of him at the deadly Charlottesville rally

That's interesting, someone from Berkeley participating an a white nationalist rally. Was the employer justified in firing him? Is it surprising the tiki torch manufacturer distanced itself from the rally?

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/man-fired-job-photo-him-141546570.html


A man was fired from his job after a photo of him at the deadly Charlottesville white-supremacist rally went viral


Business Insider

Hayley Peterson

Business InsiderAugust 14, 2017



White nationalists who participated in the deadly rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, over the weekend are being identified on social media, and at least one man has lost his job as a result.


Top Dog, a hot-dog restaurant in Berkeley, California, said it fired Cole White on Saturday after the man was named by a Twitter account devoted to outing rally participants.


"Effective Saturday 12th August, Cole White no longer works at Top Dog," read a sign posted outside the restaurant on Sunday. "The actions of those in Charlottesville are not supported by Top Dog. We believe in individual freedom and voluntary association for everyone."


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Here's a photo of the #Charlottesville killer marching w/ a neo-Nazi group (the symbols on the shield are fasces, the root word of fascism) pic.twitter.com/XJIl8AysOH

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The Twitter account that identified White, @YesYoureRacist, is encouraging the public to help identify other attendees shown in photos from the event.


Peter Cvjetanovic, 20, was also identified in a photo from the rally and later defended himself in an interview with a Las Vegas TV station.


"As a white nationalist, I care for all people," he told Channel 2 News. "We all deserve a future for our children and for our culture. White nationalists aren't all hateful; we just want to preserve what we have."


In the photo, Cvjetanovic is holding a torch and shouting. He said he understood the photo had a "very negative connotation."

Few other businesses have weighed in on the rally, though Tiki Brand, the company that makes tiki torches, issued a statement on its Facebook page Saturday after white nationalists used the torches at a rally on Friday.


"Tiki Brand is not associated in any way with the events that took place in Charlottesville and are deeply saddened and disappointed," the statement read. "We do not support their message or the use of our products in this way. Our products are designed to enhance backyard gatherings and to help family and friends connect with each other at home in their yard."

 

This ought to be fun to watch.

 

"We believe in individual freedom and free association" unless we dont like who you associate with.


I have no issues with the owner firing him, but their statement is utter BS. They fired him for exactly what they claimed to champion.

 

Interesting. "We believe in individual freedom and voluntary association for everyone." I guess that means "only if you believe like we do". Does America no longer believe in free speech; even if it's offensive? Did not many of our brothers and sisters fight, and some even sacrifice their life, so we could be free even if some of us act like asses? I wonder if this same Hot dog joint would fire their employee if they seen them in a Black Lives Matter protest. How about a "Right To Life" or "Gay Pride" protest. I think I see some court cases on the horizon and some big rewards being achieved. People doing the posting and those firing are opening themselves up to lawsuits.

 

You should be allowed to speak your mind ... but actions have consequences. If the guy marched down the street with his dick hanging out, nobody would question his being fired. To anyone who lost family members fighting the Nazi - watching this idiot march down the street with other Nazi dicks is FAR more offensive.

 

Oh well....

 

Indeed they do, and the state of CA makes what happened highly illegal. You can't fire people because they hold political beliefs which you might find objectionable. Especially when it's not even directly related to the business model (selling hot dogs) or while working. It's an open and shut case.

He's going to own that hot dog stand when the smoke clears.

 

When the idiot was outed, he became a danger (by association) to the other employees of the business. No court is going to back an employee who represents a physical danger to other employees and the business owner.

 

Hopefully he will win a "wrongful termination" lawsuit.

 

Do you think the employer should be forced to keep a man at his business who represents a physical danger
to his other employees?

 

Being pro-slavery is definitely against individual freedom.
In a lot of states, you can be fired for any reason - or no reason at all - only if you can PROVE age or racial discrimination or are a "whistle-blower" are you protected.

 

Nope, sorry. Just because he's a danger to the business or other employees isn't enough. That's a separate crime and you call the cops if there are people threatening you.

 

Doesn't matter if they hate it. I lost a Uncle who was shot down on a bombing mission over Germany. My great grandmother was executed in a concentration camp. My dad fought the Japanese and my mother helped build B-52's during the war. Three out of four had one thing in common AMERICA and the FREEDOM that was granted to all of us by our Constitution. If we give up parts of it because some group takes offense then the whole nation loses and those before us fought in vain.

 

Who the **** would want this Nazi around? Maybe the Trump crime will give him job at one of their factories in China or Africa.

 

Were the Nazis preaching separation or were they preaching slavery at the rally? I haven't heard what their slogan or chant was.

 

Nazis want chaos and genocide.

 

There were enough confederate rags on display to indicate favoritism for slavery.
Clearly, Nazis were racists.

 

I would fire him as well. I would do it because I wouldn't want my business to be hurt. If a person has white nationalist or black nationalist opinions I wouldn't care so long as it doesn't effect how they work, act, or treat customers and coworkers, or hurt the business in any way.

 

Perhaps it's the other way around. Does this person have a record of violence? Is it possible he is a pacifist and has never shown any tendencies toward violence? Just because he belongs to a group that some don't like doesn't make him a threat. That would be like working in a place that a known Black Lives Matter activist also works. Some of you are too quick to judge.

 

Yeah well, CA isn't a lot of states, and the law is on the books. It's fairly short law, and on the books for precisely this reason.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=LAB&sectionNum=1101

1101.

No employer shall make, adopt, or enforce any rule, regulation, or policy:

(a) Forbidding or preventing employees from engaging or participating in politics or from becoming candidates for public office.

(b) Controlling or directing, or tending to control or direct the political activities or affiliations of employees.

 

Then you would be slapped with a lawsuit, as well.

 

I agree. There's no place in the world for racists and bigots. I'm not sure what that has to do with what you are quoting though.

So you don't know. Why not just say that?

Confederate flag does not mean they want slavery anymore than someone that wears a Che Guevara t shirt advocates for genocide.

Yes, they are racists that doesn't mean they are for slavery though. It was in Virginia and that's what southern racists use.

 

Here I go ticking everyone off. If you can show that this man committed a crime or intended to be party to criminal conduct, he should be fired. If his offense was marching in a protest against ideas which are widely accepted now ( tolerance, racial equality, etc) than I oppose this termination. I do not think it wise as a social construct in this country to threaten the livelihoods and paychecks of people who march for unpopular causes - unless you want to stop protests and marches. I can guarantee you that it will inevitably impact workers more than management, the working poor more than the upper middle class, when you endorse businesses that threaten their workers with pink slips because they have the audacity to take part in public expressions of political activity on their own time, off the clock. People have to act like adults at work, if we want the next generation of Americans to be exposed to ideas that may not be blessed with instant popularity. We do not threaten protester's next mortgage payment, and their kids school clothes money, and call it a 'natural consequence of unpopular political expression'

As for workplace 'morale', this is simple we are a nation full of people who march, write letters to the editor, blog, post lawn signs, and yes put " You oppose Abortion? Don't have one." bumper stickers on our cars. Management's job in any company, is to keep politics out of the workspace, not out of its workers lives.

I am a gay man who has worked side by side with homophobes, and bigots off and on for decades. As long as I am treated respectfully at work, I can respect the WORK of others. If I can put aside my views of these dinosaurs, while I am on the clock, so can those co-workers in the Berkley restaurant.

 

I think slavery, serfdom, and forced labor were necessary for civilizations to survive and compete. During that time machines and industry were just beginning to be able to reduce that necessity particularly for the North. I think we're are now privileged enough with technology that we can morally judge the many people of the many nations for such a heinous act such as slavery. But I wonder if we would be so different if we were not so blessed as we are in the modern era.

What really puts focus on their racism is how Americans of that time reserved slavery for blacks.

 

I am Jewish and I would not want this POS or any other Nazi anywhere near where I live or work.