dj trump has just announced that we will win in Afghanistan Myself, I don't see it, I don't see us winning in Afghanistan Imo... sooner or later this mess will Wind up in a manner similar with Vietnam. In other words, we will announce victory go home. In any case... trump has now set out a couple of foreign policy benchmarks for success. Specificall, we will find some positive relief from North Korea's nuclear weapons program. And we will win in Afghanistan. So... what do you guys think ?
I think you are right for Afghanistan. Trump is a "brankrupt and walk" businessman so he'll bail on Afghanistan as soon as he can. There is no foreseeable profit from our continued involvement there. North Korea will be effectively paid off, but probably via China as a proxy.
I mean, you gotta remember, I am not a fanatic of Trump. I believe more often than not, what he says Is bullshit. The trouble is, Multi-Bazzillionaire bullshit, is, & must remain, completely different than Leader-of-the-Free_World Bullshit.
Yeah, but our press journalism is in such a bad place at the moment in terms of credibility that they just can't hold him to account. They really have shot, and continue to shoot themselves down with their ludicrous hyperbole and by masking facts with opinions. The latest is the Charlottesville news fiasco, and just before that it was the shameful mistreatment of the James Damore memo, but its building up over a long time as the internet has under-cut the value of news reporting and increased the value of shrill reactions. The media is now too weak to conduct its role as purveyor of free speech in our multi-pillared governance system. It reminds me how "buyer beware" became outmoded as wide-scale advertising became economic, leading the law to introduce the concept of Consumer Protection. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlill_v_Carbolic_Smoke_Ball_Co There will be something similar to ensure quality media journalism, eventually, and it will be beneficial to society as a whole...
Can't say I disagree with the comment here, but I really don't think the press' coverage or lack thereof, will have much to do with our involvement there. With Trump's military advisors, & those closest around him (with their military / national security knowledge) you can pretty much guarantee the military will be the Deciders this time around.
You make a lot of good points about the media. If we had any honest sources of news in this country we might get better people in govt, which would lead to better policy out of govt. The vast majority of people in this country are too lazy to seek reliable news and most of what's left just looks to confirm their entrenched bias.
You make a lot of good points about the media. If we had any honest sources of news in this country we might get better people in govt, which would lead to better policy out of govt. The vast majority of people in this country are too lazy to seek reliable news and most of what's left just looks to confirm their entrenched bias.
You make a lot of good points about the media. If we had any honest sources of news in this country we might get better people in govt, which would lead to better policy out of govt. The vast majority of people in this country are too lazy to seek reliable news and most of what's left just looks to confirm their entrenched bias.
Well I think trump is pretty clear on this issue in his speech on Afghanistan Winning means kicking the butt of the taliban and isis inn Afghanistan That is to say... winning this war the old fashioned way... a complete butt whipping
Problem is that means killing a lot of afghans, who have relatives who then want honor/ vengeance. The only point in invasion is if you want to own the populace or territory. This is just pointless murder for our military pride.
A quick reminder that even the democratic afghan governement believe in sha'riah too. You will never save muslims from the cultural disaster that islam is.
You and me, we both agree very rare and become very often in more or less heavy in dispute in the forum ... but here I can only totally agree with you!
Will we win in Afghanistan? The question is not as simple as it sounds. The answer depends on your definition of "winning", and even a brief review of posts already existing demonstrates a significant lack of agreement on this core element. Personally, I can't think of a definition of "winning" that I could confidently predict eventual success, so I'd have to say no to the original question.
Well I haven't the faintest idea what it is that you 'won', but you're certainly right about getting out as soon as you'd won it. Let's face it, you should never have gone in??
We don't have to 'win', just make it clear they aren't going to be some sort of haven for our enemies, and they will suffer a lot if they provide aid and comfort to terrorists. That's a policy neither Obama nor Bush wanted to implement, but it is the necessary one. hide terrorists in your towns and villages,, you will pay for it, and it's up to them to decide if it's worth it or not; we can be in and out in hours at any time.
Despite the failure of Presidential policies it's still far better to fight small wars elsewhere than wait for the little gimps to become big gimps and start invading each other. Seems our leaders have forgotten the lessons of the 20th Century re appeasing maniacs until they grow to significant threats.
Yes, but if you're going to fight them then fight them without one hand tied behind you back, figuratively speaking. Your Pentagon should have sent you in with orders to strike hard and strike fast, then get the hell out. In the event the Talibs were able to get the upper hand because of the pussyfooting around, and they've still got it
Yes, the 'nation building' fantasy is ridiculous, especially when dealing with Muslims; all they understand is force, everything else is weakness to them. So we should embrace 'diversity' and 'respect' their culture on their own terms instead of trying to change them into an image they hate, which is anything past the 7th century.
Indeed, Muslims despise weakness and respect brute force; the Afghans are a warrior race and they laughed at the restraint our guys and gals had to operate under. Lions led by donkeys??
