Trump’s Afghanistan War Plan: Fight Forever and Call It ‘Victory’

Let's put that to the test:

Is slavery legal in the USA?

 

Some history and why trumps vision will also become a failure

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-06-02/timeline-afghanistans-turbulent-history/1702156

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/asia-jan-june11-timeline-afghanistan/

 

Sure ... they are scum and necessary to fight without any doubt, but why did Trump then tell since minimum 2011 that it is necessary to pull out of Afghanistan to not waste money and soldiers in this country and made this as an election promise too ... but now makes a full 180° degree turn and annoy the base which elected him ... if they use some brain and not being puppets to forgive him all and everything because their idol at all costs?

 

From the very beginning, the Afganistan war was going to be a tough slog. The lack of any real economic infrastructure is a big factor.

Any semblance of a victory there was derailed by Bush's ill-advised overthrow of Saddam Hussein. Then Obama set everything back further with his 'get out and let it all turn to crap' strategy.

It looks to me like we are getting back on track.

Military victory is the "easy" part. The struggle for political, social, and philosophical success is multi-generational.

 

Ehm ... the context of your question with the topic I do not really understand now!

 

You make a petty comment. Trump showed he had the ability to reason and listen to the people he chose to run the military, all marks of a good president. He actually did everything but pull out. He reversed the past policies of trying to turn other countries into democracies and basically put them on notice that we are no longer in the business of nation building. One would have to be pretty full of hatred to oppose anything President Trump said last night but I suspect that includes the few of the usual suspects here.

 

You know as well as the rest of us that he stood on a non-interventionist policy. This is a complete about-face.

However, his opponents have a problem: how do they attack him for pursuing an Obama / Clinton policy?

 

Waste if time, money and lives. Just another DC crafted boondoggle.
Do terrorists have to go to Afghanistan to learn how to drive a car?

 

You said you, someone who is not from America, understands the constitution better than someone who is American.

So I said let's put that to the test... Is slavery still legal in the US?

Looking it up doesn't count either.

 

Much of Trump's support is very anti-war.

 

Yes and Oberry had his eight and gave back all that Bushy accomplished. Actually OBatard managed to escalate, create new combatants and watched as they dug in to new territory's killing thousands!

And there is that whole embarrassment with Russia bending him over like the punk he was

 

Clearly,another thread where TDS suffers gather.What do you blame him for?He is a lame duck president you wanted him to be.Neocons run foreign policies and Chuck Schumer is fully supporting them.All people around Trump who wanted to withdraw troops and focus on the US economy and rebuilding infrastracture were forced out with the big help of liberals and the media under their control.Liberal interventionists and neocons are on the same page.More wars.It just shows that the US establishment is one party.They serve only themselves.Voting is for idiots.They sent a clear message to American people,no matter who you vote for,we always win.

 

I sounds like you need to take a step back; maybe take a vacation, or something. I live near Olympic National Park. It's a great place to get away from it all and clear your head.

 

I don't know.

 

shows no difference between party's when it comes to war

 

This may all be turn out to be true, but I didn't get that impression based on the speech he gave.

 

One moment please ... wasn't it Trump who attacked Obama all the time for Afghanistan and who wanted to pull out all troops from there for not wasting any further money and soldiers life?
Obama pulled out of Iraq due to fact that this was the will of clear majority of US people who were over with this Vietnam 2.0 started by the USA themselves due to be total incompetent to have any idea what to do after military victory.
Obama specialized the Afghanistan mission on one hand and reduced troops too ... if smart or good is an issue people can argue endless, but I will say bad done in sum with some good things inside.

The problem for the USA was that they did not learn out of history. After the USSR left Afghanistan, the complete country went off from interest and everyone gave a crap about what was then going on there ... so happening during Clinton presidency!
No one ever conquered this country as foreigner in history and all failed ... Russians, British, Mongols and even Alexander the Great failed at least and was not the last one as often told, because how long was he there, before he died and then his complete empire felt apart with his death?
The reason why everyone fails is simple, because there are too many different "groups" and you are only able to win some of them as friend, but this makes you automatically an enemy to all others and so you are messed up in the internal disputes of this country!

 

Yep, the Generals told Trump if he pulls out it will leave a vacuum. Russians already trying to get back in. Daesh and AQ are there. Which Daesh is also expanding into Asia.

AQ pledged to the Taliban under Z-man. But now Bin Ladens son, has entered the picture.

 

Neither do I.

And I doubt that there will be any significant changes until the USG adjusts its position on the current international law of war which has mandated the current ROE. I doubt that Mattis or any of the generals near Trump would approve of any very helpful changes to the ROE

 

President Bush crated the worst foreign policy nightmare in US history. We are still dealing with his stupidity. He has hamstrung us.

 

Ah, OK, now I understand what you want, sorry

Should this be a trick question about slavery? Anyway ... maybe you think the answer is Yes, it is in reality No with only one exception!
The original US Constitution has been and continues to be supplemented ... the so-called amendments to the Constitution. And here we have the 13. and also the 14. amendment which clearly makes slavery illegal and gaves the black the citizen rights back.
I am pretty sure, the tricky part in your question is about the only real exception named and rarely known by many people... "except as punishment for a crime" ... called Penal labor!

Correct and pleased?

 

That exception makes it legal in that one instance only.

So yes, better. Now we just have to work with you on how the courts work here, and you too can be one of us.

 

When this struggle between the west and Islamicism intensified on Sep11, terrorists had yet to hit upon the car-as-weapon tactic. Anyway, it's not relevant.

As soon as the latest Afgan war was begun by Bush, we (the USA, not Bush, or Obama, or Trump) owned the result. Any unconditional withdrawal will turn that nation into AlQaedaland; with predictable results (none good).

 

Shaun Vanity is probably one of the lowest form of near human life that exists in the Main Stream Media. He lies so much about so many things and so many people that i am sure he has convinced himself that he tells the truth.

 

The Glorious Don could have said anything at all and the Hillary defeat-syndrome would cause angst among her fellow Losers.

Kill terrorists. Terrorize the terrorists. Forget about appeasing muslim governments and trying to build them into Democracies against their will.

We're all about killing terrorists now.