White supremacist forum site Stormfront seized by domain hosts

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  1. trucker

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    Stormfront is an odious website, and I'm pretty sure that like most hate sites, it could qualify as Satanic. Nevertheless, as disturbing as it is, what's even more disturbing is the logic behind silencing it. Freedom of Speech means that we have an obligation to defend things we strongly disagree with. Something SF certainly qualifies as. We all know the quote ascribed to Voltaire, but Neil Gaiman's feelings on it say it as well as anyone else: “If you accept – and I do – that freedom of speech is important, then you are going to have to defend the indefensible. That means you are going to be defending the right of people to read, or to write, or to say, what you don’t say or like or want said."

    That being said, I sort of wonder what The Usual Suspects over at the World Events board are going to do now that SF has been shut down. I guess they're going to have to get their talking points about Israel and the Jews elsewhere from now on.
     
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    nope i see its , Network Solutions, LLC
     
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    I’m not sure if freedom of speech obliges me to defend things I strongly disagree with. I think it allows me to go all out on those things. Freedom of speech is about the ability for me and others to have a say. It is not an absolute. As J.S. Mill pointed out, liberty doesn’t imply licence. On this particular point if a service has made what is probably a commercial decision then they are allowed to do so. Hosting Stormfront was probably damaging to them. Stormfront can look elsewhere and is free to do so.
     
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    Network solutions has been around almost as long as the internet. They got their start in the business of domain name registration. Say you want to build a website. One of the first tasks is to perform a search to see if the name you want is available, e. g. a unique name (domain name). Since Network Solutions also provided the search engine to preform the search, any name entered was automatically reserved (effectively registered and for sale) by Network Solutions, a questionable practice at best. Network Solutions Registry and registrar business at one time was a legal monopoly that also controlled the DNS (domain name system).

    "In the 1990s, Network Solutions implemented a policy of censoring domain names. This came to light when Jeff Gold attempted to register the domain name shitakemushrooms.com but was unable to. Further aggravating the controversy was Network Solutions' automated screens blocked the registration of shitakemushrooms.com, though the domain name '****.com' had been successfully registered. Network Solutions argued that it was within its First Amendment rights to block words it found offensive, even though it was operating pursuant to contract with a Federal agency"

    Besides controlling the registry of over 6 million domain names Network Solutions does provides Hosting and web design services. Network Solutions has a very colorful and somewhat shady reputation filled with controversy. While they are still a large player in the domain name registry business there is now more competition.

    Read more if you are interested:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Solutions
     
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    I don't get it. Many here were upset that the 49ers and the NFL simply didn't get rid of Kaepernick because he was practicing his freedom of speech by kneeling during the National Anthem, yet you now complain that Network Solutions severed tie with Stormfront, citing freedom of speech?
     
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    Well, if the conversation on this thread ended there, I wouldn't have much of an issue with it. But what I was seeing on this thread were posters wishing for SF to disappear completely - an odd belief for some posters here to hold considering some of these same posters were all for the stunts Kathy Griffin et al were pulling. You've got to have freedom of expression for everyone or it means nothing.

    There's a quote that came to me after reading a few of the more startling posts here wanting SF removed from the net: “Most people do not really want others to have freedom of speech, they just want others to be given the freedom to say what they want to hear.” That most certainly applies to a couple posters on page one of this very thread.
     
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    Not me; the anthem is super-racist.
     
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    Hopefully the European Union will do the same to Iron March. It's about time that opposition to white supremecists had some conviction. If only the "SJW's" didn't have these ridiculous beliefs about multiple genders, were not socialist, anti-white, or heterophobic. If not for these things, I'd have no problem with them having authority in the United States.
     
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    In case you haven't listened to this...

     
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    Spare us the idiotic "white genocide" meme. Go to 4chan with that nonsense.:fart:
     
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    Actually, there are illegal activities there. Like targeting people for terroristic harassment (usually women) by printing their names and addresses and phone numbers. People have gone to jail for this.
     
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    Limiting free speech is unAmerican

    but the Internet has become globalist and unAmerican

    You can't explain free speech to foreigners who do not know what you are talking about
     
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    Speech that incites violence has no protection under the first amendment. There was never an unlimited free speech right in this country.
     
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    Good point. Could the files the private company are withholding be considered their intellectual property in this context? And yes I understand the humor in calling that fever swamp "intellectual".
     
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    Thats a slippery slope if "inciting violence" comes to mean whatever leftwingers say it means and nothing else

    In some foreign countries otherwise considered freee and civilized socities speech that criticizes muslims or homosexuals can be considered a crime punishable by going to jail

    That is unAmerican and yet foreigners from those same countries participate in and influence the Internet in America
     
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    Oh, is Stormfront a group protected by civil rights laws? I didn't realize.:roll:
     
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    How about black and muslim racists?

    I heard nothing in your video taking down those websites?
     
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    TLDW

    Transcript?

    Summation?

    Anti-free speech?
     
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    Well, there's this thing called the Constitution, and in 1789...
     
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    StormFront...

    LOL
     
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    So long as they shut down every BLM site that promotes and incites violence against police. I won't hold my breath.

    Personally I want to know where the freaks are and now that the can't be tracked and followed on Stormfront (I guarantee that the FBI kept tabs on everyone that popped onto that site) they will just find another site to go to.
     

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