Talking to NK's Kim is a waste.

Trump gets it right, talking to North Korea's Kim is a big waste of time. He only grows more dangerous with every month that we delay. http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/01/politics/donald-trump-rex-tillerson-north-korea/index.html

Question: name one concession that Kim has made when we (Obama et al) appeased him, negotiated/talked with him!? Name one!

Me, obviously I don't think Kim is open to talking, as we have no track record of Obama getting ANY concessions from Kim. So China and other trading partners/enablers of Kim's will need to be confronted - possibly with a full trade embargo against China. Trump is also getting us ready for the coming nuclear war that will unfortunately need to be fought - otherwise Kim will eventually sell nukes to other rogue states. Clearly communism/totalitarianism is the real underlying problem here.

Trump is forcing the issue like he did on the NFL kneelers (the issue that the kneelers are disrespecting the flag/anthem.) He won that issue. He's forcing the liberals to confront the fact that Little Rocket Man won't negotiate/talk. LIberals are delusional on this issue - and they effectively are almost siding with Kim or Trump. Trump will win on this one particular issue, thereby forcing liberals to choose sides - and they will be forced to choose Trump. He's a great negotiator ("The Art of The Deal".)

Your opinion?

 

Can you name one concession that the US - a country thousands of miles away - gave to NK?

 

When he gives concession we'll give concessions. Obama was ALL about appeasement/concessions - just look at his appeasement to ISLAM!

 

I'm SURE that Obama made OFFERS of concessions....100% convinced....that's good, but Kim has never been WILLING to talk/negotiate, so it's now time to not count on that.

 

The problem that I see, however, is that when the nukes start flying that liberals will blame TRUMP and not where the blame squarely belongs: on the insane dictator of North Korea (Lil' Kim).

 

I think that we'll need to embargo NK until they are literally eating grass - THEN maybe Little Rocket Man will finally see that he needs to join the civilized world.

 

Learned that technique from trump hissownself.

 

Yes, Trump, like Hillary and Obama, never admits that he makes mistakes. That's too bad.

Keep in mind that Kim even killed his own half-brother and uncle shows that Kim will kill any one in the world to expand his power. We are headed for nuclear war....and China won't allow a democracy on their border (if South Korea beats North Korea), so this will likely expand to pretty much (eventually) the whole world. Yes, WWIII.

North Koreans lack freedom, so they have been brainwashed. I blame the North Koreans for being weak on freedom, unlike the US (the best democracy, ever.)

 

They are literally eating grass out in the countryside AND tree bark

 

Kim came to power before Trump did, so no.

 

Not in the nation's capital they aren't....we'll need to starve them to the negotiating table. Just like the Soviets were poor in the countryside as well, but not in Moscow.

Trump has put on more sanctions (for the time in office) than Obama did. Obama's lack of resolve is going to cost the lives of hundreds of thousands (maybe millions) of people. 1 million North Koreans alone died in the Korean war, but THIS war will of course go NUCLEAR, so MILLIONS is unfortunately more realistic.

 

The question we need to ask is: WHY THE HELL DIDN'T OBAMA RAMP UP SANCTIONS on Little Rocket Man!? He could go down as as much of a failure as Neville Chamberlain was (delusional to the threat of totalitarian regimes.) Liberals don't seem to realize just how evil totalitarian regimes (Fidel, Saddam, Hilter, etc.) are.

 

They need to rise up and demand freedom/democracy. I blame the North Korean people. America did it (King George), so they should too.

 

The sociopath mass murderer madman Kim Jung Un thru his foreign minister has vowed to attack the United States as a certainty.

 

There is no reason to go to war against N. Korea to solve the problem of Kim Jung Un's vow to mass murder Americans. I do notice in your messages you give ZERO concern for American lives that would be lost in a nuclear attack by Kim Jung Un.

Kim Jung Un does not care how many N. Koreans starve and more than his father didn't. Kim Jung Un will attack the United States with nuclear weapons when he can because he is a true sociopath and sadistic mass murderer and that's what they do - cause as much death and suffering as possible for the joy and ego of doing so. If hundreds of thousands or millions of N. Koreans die - whatever causes it - that will bring him joy too. He is well known he greatly enjoys torturing and murdering N. Koreans most of all. He would kill everyone on the planet if he could.

 

Kim is so utterly insane and out of touch with the modern world that if a person dares to, say, try to form a labor union, he will not only put THAT person in a brutal gulag, but their entire family! He's insane. Liberals have a hard time confronting totalitarian thugs.

 

The longer we wait the more nukes (i.e. dead Americans) that that lunatic will amass.

 

Yes, like God/Jesus in the Bible, and Hitler, and Saddam, Little Rocket Man is into brutal and sadistic torture. No love, no compassion. We need to spread freedom/democracy (representative republics), since totalitarian thugs are the enemy of humanity.

Jesus' Auschwitz.
Hitler's Auschwitz.

 

China supplies 90% of Kim's oil. Clearly we see who his enablers are!

 

er, I meant the source of this liberal tactic you described.

"liberals will blame TRUMP and not where the blame squarely belongs:"

 

Can we agree at least agree that the real underlying problem here is not Trump, but rather totalitarianism/communism (vs. freedom/democracy)?

 

Valid point.

 

Would you vote for a president who was unwilling to negotiate on america destroying our nukes while china and russia keeps theirs? LOL

Kim should never negotiate getting rid of his nukes when he looks at our history just since 01. He would be an utter fool to do so. But so few here understand the simplicity of this. For one thing many americans will never do, is to put the shoe on the other foot, and see it from the counter view point.

I have no fear of NK ever using nukes, unless we in our war mongering arrogance invade or try to take him out. But if we get crazy and do that, I have no doubt he will launch on us, just as russia or china would do.

If gadafi and hussein had nukes, they would still be in power and you can bet your arse on that. And keep your arse.

The good thing is, and to me it is good, is that china said if we invaded NK, they would fight on their side. Too many clueless folks are playing with MAD as if you would survive it. American war mongering has got to stop. Perpetual war for perpetual peace has got to stop. For the sake of our own people. In more ways than one.

NK is only a threat to us, if we invade her. As we did in the ME. So, if we do not invade and leave her alone, NK is no threat, no more than russia or china is, in regards to nukes.

Kim is no more insane than we are. In fact, given NK is not invading others, removing their leaders, killing them, NK is the saner.

 

Sounds like the best way would be for INTERNAL pressure to build on Kim, via China embargoing him - starving his people, etc.

 

Just like with Saddam invading Kuwait, the pudgy un-elected Little Rocket Man WOULD invade other countries if he COULD....fortunately Trump/America keep him from doing that. Who is worse, One Mind, Kim or Trump? I say Kim by a country mile. What say you?

PS Trump is brilliant, it's like if he lived in 1936 he'd have gone after Hitler, and people would eventually have to side with Trump.....Kim is today's Hitler. Obama was like Neville Chamberlain, however.