Campus free speech is on its deathbed

In what way? Maturity has little to do with it.

 

What I meant was that they believe their rights are being violated, when in reality it is their peace of mind that is being disrupted. Legally speaking, no wrong has been done.

 

Too simplistic. If you shut down half of the viewpoints, you're gonna end up with half-assed, non-solutions to problems. Maybe you'll feel good as you fail, though.

 

Dealing with multiple personalities and achieving goals together is a trait that is learned through multiple experiences. Also, you generally have to not be a petulant child that can rationalize other viewpoints come from varying life paths.

 

If someone is shouted down in a planned assembly, their right to peacefully assemble is being infringed.

 

Take for example the "hook-up culture". One side would throw out the entire concept, the other would continue "hooking-up" as if nothing is wrong. What are the issues you think may arise from a casual sexual encounter?

 

College is not irrelevant now. Very often a high paying job requires a 4 year degree, still. Right, wrong, or otherwise, experience
may not be a favor without a college degree. I you want to make the big bucks, go to college.

 

Well that already happened in the 60's.

Personally I think the vast majority of our problems in the world stems from a lack of personal responsibility. People want to do whatever they want to do, but they don't want to experience the consequences of those decisions.

That's why we have so many children growing up without one or both parents....which leads them to destruction.

That's why we have so many who want to look for excuses instead of assuming personal responsibility. They want to cry racism, or sexism, and blame everyone but themselves for their life's results.

They want to go to college, but they want it for free. They want to have no commitments to anyone but themselves.

We have become a nation of self-centered psychopaths because of it.

 

Possibly. I know much that we've accomplished has come from that.
Also, you might then be able to rationalize that my viewpoints come from my own life path. I've come to the conclusion that certain types of opinions simply do not have value.

 

It is all about trial and error. Though I expect plenty of error, obviously.

 

So, you shut down the ability to learn from someone due to a perceived viewpoint? I gotta say, that sounds fairly immature and shallow.

 

Exactly. I think the solution might be found in better social conditioning. People need something greater than themselves to rally behind, but that "greater thing" must have something to offer in exchange.

 

That's going to be hard to do with a group of people who have been taught to hate the very country they live in. A country that other people in the world would give everything they own to live in.

That said, that's why Trump was elected.

 

I know it seems that way. But would you consider, for example, a website such as "Encyclopedia Dramatica" a learning experience? What could I possibly gain from someone saying something negative there? What purpose could those editors serve?

As for actual politics, I've made some attempt to hear what others have to say. Haven't I read and responded to posts here?
It is just that no one has provided me with a sufficient reason to think differently.

 

Did you look through the website before to see what was there?

 

Hard yes. But fortunately not impossible. A balance of personal pleasure and self discipline might be achievable. Though why anyone would teach others to hate their own country, yet expect them to defend a new ideology for that country is a mystery to me.

Of course Donald Trump won. The American Left is far too lazy to fight for their ideals. I prefer the Right's strength, but not their values. Not all, at least.

 

Yes. And several others like it since 2007.

 

I haven't looked at it, but why did you reject what was there?

 

Thank you Thought Criminal. Perhaps it would be better if a limited amount of others with opposing viewpoints were kept around as consultation.

 

It is basically a website where various groups are mocked. I admit, the subject in question had nothing to do with politics. But the fact that what was written there prevented me from enjoying something fully, started shaping my political views over the years.

 

I would say 14-28, at least.

 

So you rejected an idea based on the premise of mocking others.

That's having a belief that is founded on a principle, not an objective, which is admirable.

If you had not been subjected to that point of view, would you have known that it wasn't something you wanted to be associated with?

Sometimes the best way to deal with people like that is let them keep talking.

Regardless, what you did was to reject the idea, which isn't the same thing as trying to silence them.

It's ok to examine something, think about it, and reject it as against your principles, but enforcing your ideas on others through force is in and of itself unprincipled.

 

Well said. As a senior in high school, I didn't sense those younger kids were that much different from us when we were that age. But something was clearly different in their high school experience than ours, leading to the way these college crowds are now. Whether that was because of the teachers, other students, the media...I'm not sure.

I'm glad I went to college when I did. I'd like to get more degrees, but don't exactly look forward to being around the SJW crowd.

 

I went to an online university, I had a blast for 9 months. But then I was depressed that, despite being on the dean's list, I couldn't get a job. Then I flunked math, and so I'm a "some college" guy, instead of the actual degree. I'd been pondering for a while if I should return, if I could. Or if I could get my career started, etc. I'm really unsure of how to move forward, because a lot of these things require the other person to say "yes", they believe you or yes, you'll get the job lol. My major was going to be in INTL Business-Business Administration. I do have inspirations for running a business. If I had the investment capital, I'd get started now.

 

I remember my days when I was in a similar position. I wish I could offer advice...