What are these viable solutions? How do whites benefit from living amongst blacks, and where would blacks have a better quality of life than white majority nations?
Your excellent post was the target of a 4 youtube Link-Dump/Burial attempt/deflection, in lieu of direct answer. Don't expect a straightforward reply. There is none that doesn't acknowledge the truth. The expense incurred by wildly inordinate justice and social costs (50% of the Fed prisons, other Justice systems, inordinate Welfare, Remedial/dumbed-down edu, AA displacing more deserving, etc), is a big drag on the economy/society. I view slavery as 'original sin'. Something for which we have been paying for 150 years, and will be doing so forever, or until and unless genetic manipulation can deal with innate differences in IQ, hormone, etc. The Hispanic wave/multi-waves a similar problem. Demography is destiny, and ours is eroding. +
I thought this Thread was about White's need Proof of Racism ... funny how it turned into a Black's Pashing Party. I guess that says it all.
BS. LINK? Most are ostensibly Unskilled "jobs Americans won't do" (at a price). You've added a new twist/perversion. And even if not legal, they/low-skilled Hispanics have become legal by amnesty at well more than double the current total legal immigration rate. Immigration is mostly a people-dump of unskilled "tired and poor", from various countries that can't keep it in their pants: South of the border, S Asia and Pacific Islands, and Failed states like Haiti, Cuba, etc. Not counting those fom the failed territory, Puerto Rico. +
Here are some questions to think about: ---What cities have too many Whites in them, with too many Whites in control? ---What nations have too many Whites in them, with too many Whites in power? ---What cities or nations have too many Blacks, Hispanics, Asians or other non-Whites in them that don't share enough power with other races?
Those are simply not fair questions. Blacks nor any other group exist for your benefit so why would we need to justify how you benefit from our lives? The global economy was structured for the benefit of Europeans and people of European descent so asking which countries besides majority White countries would Blacks have better quality lives doesn't make any sense as no where in the world today have any nations operated on an equal playing field thanks to European influence (e.g. slavery, colonization, imperialism, war etc.). You didn't answer my question. How have Black people personally negatively affected your life to the point where you feel justified in claiming that Blacks are to blame for your problems? That is a fair question because you made the claim that Whites were perfectly justified in blaming Blacks for their problems. So how have Blacks personally harmed you? Despite Taxonomy26's cheer leading the videos I posted actually did serve a purpose as they show what a former President, whose philosophy is very much like mine, has to say about some of the social issues you brought up. Why don't you watch them and provide feedback? You can also look at how Obama's ideas were put in to practice regarding issues that you specifically brought up. www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/obama-is-finally-getting-the-credit-he-deserves-as-approval-rating-nears-60.475108/
Relax. Whites saw heavy duty and hard core racism for eight years under Barack Obama because he was a professional race-baiter and race agitator and he did his very best to launch Brown Latinos and Blacks at the throats of Whites. So it's obvious that racism exists in this nation. Most leftists appear to be extremely racist.
Gosh and one could NEVER find Blacks or Brown Hispanics saying equally repulsive things about Whites. Well . . . yes you can, and all the damn time. So what's the difference? Usually the White will get punished and perhaps destroyed. The Brown and the Black -- welllllll -- not so much . . . if . . . at . . . all.
Leftist women -- and a disturbing number of leftist men -- would have lined up to let him grab them because he was their Political Messiah and they pretty much outright worshiped him. Oh and since the vast bulk of the Mainstream Media is blatantly allied with the DNC they would have made endless excuses for Obama . . . if they covered the 'incident' at all.
Love it when white christians deny racism and now as they become a minority themselves, we hear whining mews http://www.npr.org/2017/08/05/54184...-the-push-to-disaggragate-asian-american-data http://teachingresources.atlas.illinois.edu/chinese_exp/introduction04.html https://www.ft.com/content/1a6e37e8-a7b8-11e6-8b69-02899e8bd9d1
It's a perfectly legitimate question to ask/Answer to make, especially in the Race sub-forum. This thread is challenging 'White people who need proof of Racism.' (No one does say there is none IAC) So they, or anyone acknowledging race differences, has a right, even duty, to show if their 'racism' is merited, or not. This is also nonsense. Asians were subject to great persecution, but their IQs have overcome prejudice despite far less resources than the resource-rich but ungovernable, sub-Saharan rabble, who in good degree still live in huts as they did 30,000 years ago. Japanese, who live on a seismic rock, and who we interned here as late as WWII, and their country/population Nuked. Yet in 50 years they were the #2 economy in the World. That's what an IQ of 106 vs 70 can do. And why they are also outperforming those nasty 'Euros'... here. We are a meritocracy, who, if anything, have boosted/AAed blacks way above their ability/deservance. Disingenuous, Dishonest, or Obtuse profer. Asking for anecdote AFTER he/me already posted the larger societal reasons. This is beyond a logic failure: it's counting on the statistical probability/strawman he 'personally' hasn't been, ie, robbed by a black person. It's a sneaky illogical joke. You can't play debate with me! (-40) Briefly and again: inordinate and huge cost to the Justice, Welfare, and educational systems. And WE pay for those items with Our tax dollars.. and so much more. If we were a 'white' country, we could easily pay for universal healthcare like the other 'euro' countries, instead of half the costs of Justice, Welfare, edu, etc. One always has to wonder if your posts are intentional disingenuity, or just 'logic challenged'/blunder. You can quote slimey leftists Graves/Nisbet all you want. But IQ and common sense leads to the best conclusions. Like the Nonsenical juvenile graphic in this post (I deleted), the 4 Boobtubes are Giant Deflections/Discussion Hand Grenades, because you can't answer/are embarrassed by simple but cogent points in 3 or 4 sentence posts. The societal disaster Blacks in general are for America. There was no answer to my similar post either, pointing out we are still paying for the 'original sin' of slavery. +
Whites built western society; whites should be allowed to continue living indefinitely in the societies they built, run and maintain without being burdened and blended out by non-whites. Which non-white society would you rather live than the white West? None? Why should whites feel any differently?
If Whites had stayed in Europe and decided among themselves that they wanted Europe for Whites only then your comment might come off as more rational. But how can you argue that Whites have a right to a personal living space when they went all around the world colonizing and affecting the lives of other people committing heinous atrocities including slavery, genocide, rape, murder, terrorism and virtually every inhumane act imaginable? You can thank your ancestors for spreading their precious Western culture all over the world for the benefit of the "uncivilized" and "culturally inferior" non-Whites who you feel are burdening you with their presence and blending your bloodline out of existence. That's their fault. Alternatively you could accept that we are one humanity and work to better the lives of everyone. But again if you want to blame somebody for the problems in Western society blame your ancestors. You got a better deal out of these historical events than all of the people who died horrible deaths and suffered unspeakable horrors.
I am under no obligation to justify my existence or presence to anyone. Are you going to try to justify to me why I should have to put up with living among racists? This is nothing but hate speech and a display of ignorance of history. The Japanese infrastructure prior to World War II was developed through trade with the West. Some countries were able to modernize and Westernize depending on their level of cultural development when Europeans started colonizing other parts of the world. After World War II the United States helped Japan rebuild. They were able to develop the economy they did thanks to trade with the rest of the world. There are other parts of Asia especially in the Southeast that are much poorer and less technologically developed than Japan just as Eastern Europeans and many South American countries with majority White populations are much poorer than the Western countries. Only cultural and environmental explanations can make sense of this. You can give direct or indirect examples of how Blacks have personally harmed you. Of course you don't have any real examples. You're just being a racist jackass. You calling an image from Factcheck.org that outlines the results of Obama's Presidency in the last months he was in office a "juvenile graphic" is hilarious and just shows the intellectual bankruptcy of your line of reasoning. You refuse to answer entire posts in debate and expect me to address every sentence of your ridiculous racist tirades as if anyone would need to dignify questions that relegate their people to the role of "human pests." Go read a book on cultural anthropology, criminal justice or modern politics to better understand why racist ideology isn't taken seriously in the modern world. By the way have you ever watched the movie American History X? Great movie. I'm going to buy it on bluray soon. Check it out. The movie gives some really great insight in to what kind of lives people with your racist beliefs lead. You're talking about this post? You're just promoting the discredited concept of dysgenics and basically saying that Whites need to find a cure to the innate stupidity of inferior races through genetic engineering. But I will give you credit for acknowledging the sins of the past committed by White Supremacists to boost the economy of their society through slave labor although it was sinful for reasons other than the racist nonsense you believe in. Now you could educate yourself by watching this video and providing feedback but I don't expect you to do that given your inability to discuss science topics in a reasonable manner. I know you won't give a serious response but this is a good video to watch on the subject:
Desegregation did far more damage sadly IMHO, the black community had to work together and tended using social pressure kept bad elements in line it had to due to systematic government discrimination or hidden pressures from whites who were the working to middle classes. You said it yourself they used to have nuclear families that implies also a strong working class or better standard of living a house, car, trappings of that class and passed the work ethic to children. So here is what blacks need to do - earn a High School Diploma, get more education or training, don't get arrested and go to jail or worse prison as adults, get a job and work at it earning a good work record and don't have babies until your married in a stable relationship OR able to tend to the child without a spouse on your own then you are more likely to have a good life. Its funny Nigerian immigrants are black and their income is often good when they come because they do the above and since they respect education their children almost always do better than they do by a good amount. Why? I would say a strong cultural character the blacks in this nation don't have anymore but used to. And Asians are a minority group and earn more than whites so does that mean society has an Asian bias?
Yes still paying for the original sin of slavery for a damn good reason. the white power structure hasn't gotten over it quite yet. I vividly recall segregation for instance. White Americans are not responsible for the sins and ommissions of the past generations, they have to own up to the sins and ommissions within their own lifetimes. BTW, that does not absolve the black community from their sins and ommissions.
So what's wrong wirh segregation? Why can't you inhabit your own living space free of whites? Almost seems like cognitive dissonance to hear you whine about white oppression and racial segregation. Could it be you know you benefit from being around whites? How do whites benefit from you?
A better question would be how has the world benefited from racism? When has White Supremacy for example ever resulted in peace and harmony? All we have seen for people like you and your ideological forebears is chaos and destruction. Do we need a history lesson? Genocide against indigenous people. Chattel Slavery. Wars. Terrorism. Institutional racist inequality. When have people who think like you when it comes to race ever come up with policies that have led to better societies for all people involved? The Eugenics Movement led to mass sterilization. Nazi Germany is responsible for the Holocaust. The KKK and other hate groups in America have killed thousands of Black People. Segregation created the Socioeconomic gap between Blacks and Whites in America. Institutional racist discrimination has affected Black people on a social, economic, physical and psychological level. If segregation had existed in the first place there wouldn't have been a demand for integration. If we had equal treatment from the beginning there wouldn't be a need for a Civil Rights movement or any sort of activism. People would have had to sacrifice their lives for justice and equality if they had it in the first place and if the ancestors of White Supremacists hadn't come to Africa to kidnap Black people from their homes they would not be involved in the lives of White people today. How do Whites benefit from the presence of Blacks? In America where I live Blacks have influenced Whites culturally in many ways. Slave labor boosted the economy. Blacks helped improve the moral character of America by pushing for civil rights which is a fundamental value in America today. Blacks have jobs in every level of society. Whites today grow up with Black friends, Black co-workers, Black teachers, Black employers, Black family members and spouses. They also enjoy music by Black performers, sports with many Black athletes, Black actors, Black comedians etc. etc. You only want to fixate on the criminal element within the Black community which is a minority of people especially when it comes to violent offenses and act like Blacks are more innately prone to criminal behavior which has no element of proof to it. Whites communities had criminals when there were few to no Blacks around. Most White victims are victims of White-on-White crime. Crime is not a Black thing and only racist ideologues make that argument. So maybe you don't feel that you need us. Maybe you think you'd be better off if there were no Blacks. Well I am absolutely certain that if there were no White Supremacists and racist ideology in general were eradicated the world would be better off.
The white man's burden ended black slavery, brought the world outof feudalism, and introduced modern plumbing, agriculture and antibiotics enabling Africa's population to sky rocket.
What is needed here is a good history lesson but I am not going to type it all out for ya. So just keep being ignorant and hating on the best nation on earth. Your gonna miss ol whitey once he is no longer around to protect you from yourself and the ones who still have you enslaved. ACLU,SPLC,ADl and and their lap dogs NAACP, and other groups will turn on you once you've helped them destroy both of us. Your still enslaved in Africa and other third world nations you came from. Now your killing each other here just like you do in the third world. Your alllies are destroying your n-hoods with drugs and perversions. The enemy of your enemy is not your friend. Want to know who rules over you.............
That's nice. How many people would you estimate were killed during Europe's campaign of conquest, colonization and imperialism? If you don't want interaction with non-Whites you can thank your ancestors for that. My people didn't land on Plymouth Rock. Plymouth Rock landed on us. And so now after hundreds of years of oppression being stripped of our native languages, cultures, names, mixing our bloodlines via rape and coming up with every racist policy they could think of to subjugate us you have the audacity to ask how are we helping you? How did White colonists help the indigenous people of the land they call America? The people they mistakenly called Indians. The Red Man who we call Native Americans today because you know...they were here before Europeans came here. How did the White man help them? I don't hate White people. They're just people to me. There's no such thing as an evil race only good and bad people that are labeled by their choices and their viewpoints. The White Egalitarians throughout history and those living today I have respect for them. But White Supremacists? Hate-mongers? Nazis? Klansman? How can people with your ideological beliefs possibly claim that people who look like me owe you anything? White man's burden? In that poem colonized people are described as "new-caught, sullen peoples, half-devil and half-child". After all of the evil that White Supremacists have done in the world how can these racist demons claim with a straight face that anyone else is morally inferior? You should really be grateful that freedom of speech is valued to the point where your views are even tolerated any more. If I had it my way I would make it illegal to be racist.
We have been infiltrated and turned against each other and now they have the worlds army on their side thanks to us not paying attention to these elites.
