Roy Moore: Gloria Allred’s Refusal to Release Yearbook Proves Allegations Are ‘Completely Untrue’

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  1. Zorro

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    Market Ticker reported:

    Jesus, it’s that obvious and CNN ran this crap?

    People need to go to ****ing prison for this. NOW.

    Yes, including Gloria Allred. The yearbook is an obvious forgery and she peddled it on national television; that needs to be good for disbarment and prosecution.

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    Stepson Darrel Nelson and accuser Beverly Nelson

    Beverly Nelson’s stepson Darrel Nelson also called for the arrest of Gloria Allred.

    Darrel Nelson called for Alabama to arrest Gloria Allred in a text message to The Gateway Pundit on Sunday.

    Alabama needs to call for the arrest of Gloria Allred for election tampering and fraud. And more importantly for pissing us off.

    Allred was a Hillary delegate at the DNC in 2016.

    Allred is also under TWO INVESTIGATIONS for misconduct as an attorney.

    It’s time to hold Gloria Alled accountable for pushing this fraudulent document for political gain.
     
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    Most major news outlets and radio stations ran it.
     
  3. Zorro

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    The problem for the Left is that Bill's stain won't go away.

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    Institutional feminism died when Gloria Steinem, Madeleine Albright and other top feminists vouched for President Clinton as he brazenly lied about never having had a sexual relationship with “that woman” — Monica Lewinsky. The Clintons and feminists were outraged when Thomas’s supporters painted Anita Hill as “a little bit nutty and a little bit slutty.” Yet that was precisely the Clintonian tact when women spoke up about Bill’s misbehaving.
    ~Maureen Dowd, NYT

    https://web.archive.org/web/2017111.../11/18/opinion/sunday/the-hillary-effect.html

    "Misbehaving?"

    Consider this from a New York Times opinionator shortly after Tony Weiner got caught showing his wiener in 2011:

    So Weiner’s Twitter game was mixed — energetic and sophisticated, but flawed. Weiner and other men in their 40s, as Marc Tracy put it recently in Tablet, “lie in the sweet spot that makes them unusually prone to this sort of Social Media Age gaffe: Too young not to be fully engaged in this hyper-fast, hyper-linked world, but too old to fully, intuitively understand its hazards.” At the same time, even Dick Costolo, the chief executive of Twitter, has admitted he doesn’t know exactly what Twitter is for. And if we don’t know what Twitter’s for, we can’t know who puts it to the best purpose. That’s why Twitter is more usefully thought of as a game than a service. Like all other immersive games — including tennis, fantasy football and chess — Twitter is spellbinding when you’re in it, and seems nuts and like a sicko waste of time when you’re not.

    His crime was getting caught.

    For Democrats, that is always the only crime.

    Slowly it dawns on Democrats the price they pay for Bill's stain -- and Weiner's wiener -- and Al Franken's groping...
     
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    What was with having the name of the restaurant in the signature as well? That threw me off more than supposedly signing his job title. If Moore presided over her divorce, its possible she obtained a copy of his signature. The authenticity would need to provide far more detail than if the signature matched, there should be ways of dating the ink and such to verify that whoever wrote the message did so forty years ago...
     
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    You will never get that before the election and they counted on it.
     
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    How so be specific.
     
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    They won't fade away because Moore said he was going to sue.

    He isn't lying about that, too, is he?
     
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    Do you know the difference between a civil and criminal case? I guess not.
     
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    Of course I do.. I am certified in civil litigation. LOLOL.

    doombug , you are such a dope. Is Moore really the sort of trash you want in the Senate? I wouldn't support him if he was a Democrat.

    We need to clean it up.. regardless of your party affiliations.
     
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    You know very little to be certified.
     
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    Please Proceed Governor.

     
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  14. AmericanNationalist

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    You couldn't even call that 'circumstantial evidence'. Imagine the conviction rates. Before speaking of law, learn its many nuances my friend.
     
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    Exactly, tell them womens to SHUT UP. IF it doesn't rise to the level of crime, SHUT UP. Shuttin up.
     
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    Oh, no, they can speak as much as they want. But a jury will not take that as circumstantial evidence. Gone are the days of hearsay. "Objection, your honor! They are defaming my client without proof". "Objection accepted."
     
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    If she was willing to show the yearbook on TV but now won't release it for evaluation, then she certainly gives the perception that she has something to hide.

    Like I said at the beginning, much of these allegations and the evidence is questionable. Then I was called a pedophile lover, because leftists love to defame anyone who disagrees with them.

    I even clearly stated that I thought the women were truthful and Moore probably guilty, but I wasn't convinced and wanted to see proof.
     
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    The restaurant and date looks to me like different handwriting...a girls handwriting...maybe to mark where and when the signature happened...an annotation.

    Logic is funny...if someone wanted to make up the idea that she knew him, would one really think, "hey, I know, I'll pretend he signed my high school yearbook! What a great idea! With something about Christmas..."

    The whole line he wrote seems awkward...if someone were going to make up a forgery, why not a card or a note, something more romantic, something that would nail him more as a swine...

    this yearbook thing makes little sense if one is trying to come up with a plan...

    so in that respect, it seems more authentic to me that at least it's real.
     
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    "It is evidence. Some accusations are extremely insignificant versions of evidence (anonymous online trolls claiming to see instances of dog abuse) and some accusations are significantly stronger pieces of evidence (several named, on the record witnesses with verifiable associations to the accused and who have almost no financial or political reason to lie)."

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    Agreement with the notion that Gloria Allred's refusal to release the original yearbook means that the allegations are completely false.

    Some solid logic there, Lou.
     
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    I can think of several.

    As an initial matter, I would note that there are several people who cast doubts on the notion that you can scientifically authenticate signatures or carbon date ink. But let's assume that is entirely possible.

    Consider the tactical side of Gloria Allred, what is to be gained by turning over the yearbook? Even if every aspect of the yearbook gets authenticated, what happens? Does Roy Moore admit that he sexually assaulted her? Of course not. Does his supporters admit that the yearbook was not altered? Probably not. Proving the validity of the yearbook only confirms that Roy Moore knew her at the time and was willing to sign a message that could be innocuous.

    On the other hand, if you use access of the yearbook to leverage something further, like getting him to the point where he is willing to testify under oath, then you have used it effectively.
     
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    Let me try to break it down for you so that you can see why those two are not the same. At all.

    Your posts are those of an anonymous online troll who has no personal relationship or even reason to suggest that you have personally seen anything in relation to the people you are accusing and you have provided neither dates nor a story to provide any semblance of detail that could be independently verified.

    The moore accusers on the other hand are known individuals. They have personal relationships to the accused which can be verified. They have stories with details that can be verified.

    Now, move the **** off this notion that your anonymous allegation is the same as the Moore accusers.
     
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    Why not release the yearbook if its not a fake?
     
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    I have shown the same proof. Its the same. whether I know someone or not has no basis as to whether I witnessed them do something or not. Ask any judge.
     
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    No ****ing ****, way to selectively read my sentence. You also gave zero reason for thinking "that you have personally seen anything in relation to the people you are accusing."

    I'm done. Go file a police report or just admit that you're trying to troll.
     
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    i need a reason to witness something. Is that how all leftists think? That explains the blatant hypocritical franken defense
     
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