How is it possible that Trump got elected?

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  1. saveliberty

    saveliberty Well-Known Member

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    At least you have the real estate developer part right.
     
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    And NOW.........

    McMaster Mocked Trump as 'Idiot' With Intelligence of 'Kindergartner ...

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    1 hour ago - McMaster also described Trump as having the intelligence of a ... Secretary of State Rex Tillerson reportedly called the president a “moron” ...
     
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    Yet you responded,

    No?
     
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    Actually, Republicans have pro
    No, but it's a long and growing list! And it's often hard to keep up with all the stupidity, greed, self dealing, and lying.
     
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    Although this has been officially denied, few people doubt that it probably happened.

    Nor do many people doubt that it an accurate assesment.

    Donald Trump behaves like a spoiled fifth grader.
     
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    He is crooked and corrupt.

    I have spent most of my career in the construction industry, and I have always scrupulously avoided doing business with Donald Trump types.

    He's a lying, no bill paying, cheating schmuck. I know the type well. On that score, he has not surprised me at all.

    What has been amazing (if not totally surprising) is the serial recklessness and incompetence of Trump and his team.

    They do business on the clear basis that they can BS their way through any mess they make, which is how Trump ran his business.

    And they clearly had no understanding of the fact that not only are people watching what they are doing (something they're clearly not used to) but that they might be actually held accountable (another thing they're not used to. They usually have their sleazy lawyers try and bluster their way out or settle).
     
  7. saveliberty

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    I suppose no one in the construction industry ever tried to take advantage of a real estate developer or thought they had deep pockets, so just over charge. I have been in the landscape construction business for a long time and have witnessed many shady contractors.
     
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    You covered nothing that I was referring to with my comment. First, you need to realize I am not a die hard Trump supporter. Moderate Republicans have failed at every turn. Most of the people that vote Republican want what Trump proposed to do during his campaign, mainly: immigration reform, R&R Obama care, tax reform, etc. This is nothing new, 99% of the candidates run on this-as did the one's he beat in the primaries.

    The moderates hate Trump because he had the guts to call them out on their BS. He publicly shammed them for not doing what they were elected to do. Had they done their job, there would not be a Trump.
     
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    This is a more accurate description of how Trump won the election.

    Trump was elected by 25% of the electorate because 90 million Americans had grown apathetic and stayed home on Election Day. Many of those Americans were true conservatives. They had no one to vote for. The GOP had abandoned the true, moderate conservative. That is still true today as the Republican Congress is doing its level best to pass a law that will add between 1.5 and 1.7 trillion dollars to the National Debt.

    Trump was aided by a four-month, daily barrage of anti-Clinton leaks provided by the Russians, courtesy of WikiLeaks, and Comey's re-opening of the private server investigation eleven days before the election.

    Trump was also aided by the catastrophic decision by the Democrats who nominated Hillary Clinton, a candidate with enough baggage to fill a moving van.
     
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    Because the other chose was worse.
     
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    I said, "Trump courted Steve Bannon, an avowed white nationalist. Since there is not a whole lot of difference between a white nationalist and white supremacist, Trump also got the support of white supremacists, along with members of the KKK and neo-Nazi organizations."

    Your first sentence is completely ludicrous. Neo-Nazis and KKK are far right organizations. What a stupid statement.

    The importance here is not their numbers. As I pointed out in the OP, the importance lies in the fact that Trump's rhetoric attracted these losers.

    That statement and others leads me to believe you didn't read the OP. Or, if you did, you were unable to comprehend what was said. I and thousands like me didn't have a party in 2016.
     
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    Kim Jong Un has his sycophant followers, too. Maybe you think he's been wrongly trashed, too?
     
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    "How is it possible that Trump got elected?".....just look who he was running against!! I think HITLER would have garnered at least 20% of the vote against Hillary......
     
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    Hehe, yes, the libs thought, after what seemed like an eternity under liberal Obama, that they owned this country. They were wrong. Still in denial they are.
     
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    Why is it when someone presents some unpleasant facts about Trump you call it whining?

    The rest can all whine that you never say anything intelligent.
     
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    This is the kind of voter Trump attracted. :roll:

    Actually, it is rather sad this type of voter ruled the day because so many Americans stayed home on Election Day.
     
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    Sycophants at gunpoint ... Kim murders his own relatives. Some equivalence.
     
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    Just what Trump loves to hear from his supporters. Hey, it is straight out of his playbook. No facts. No analysis. No positives. Just mean spirited name calling and meaningless labeling. Take that away and this Trumpian said absolutely nothing.
     
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    You lost get over it. The freakers ball is over soon.You can sing this song in while you think of your loss.

     
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    We enjoy the many advantages of a free society. We have, by far, the largest economy in the world. We are the lone super power in the world. We are the envy of every other nation on the planet. That is what the establishment has provided for us. Most are proud to be Americans. They are the silent majority.

    But all some people can do is bitch. The vast majority of Americans take responsibility for their lives. However, there is small minority, about 25% to 35% of Americans who complain about Congress, liberalism, movie stars, Nazism, Communism, the color of a man's skin, people who don't talk like the rest of us, government, and, of course, the establishment. Their complaints are never ending and totally purposeless. They are the loud minority.

    Just this once, hopefully, the silent majority grew apathetic -- too happy in a way -- and allowed the loud minority to rule the day. Let us hope it never happens again. Why?

    Because the loud minority are a pain in the ass.
     
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    You mean your left wing media conspiracy theory?
     
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    Sounds like you are inferring I am a sycophant? Your use of a logical fallacy is hilarious.
     
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    Seth, read my other post to you first. Then, ask yourself a question.

    Allow me to reverse your question. How has the establishment harmed the citizens of this country over the decades?

    Do our citizens live in poverty? Are we a weak nation? Is our economy in the toilet? If the establishment has done so much harm, why is it people from other countries want to come here?

    Are some people bitching because they want to blame others for their faults?

    In other words, I don't understand the bitching at all.
     
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    Yup, that's what I said in the OP. I'm jestsayin as bad as Clinton was, she almost won.
     
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    Really? Is that why Trump's approval rating ranks in the 30's, and at this stage of a Presidency, he is the least popular President in modern American history. Trump was elected by 25% of the electorate.

    Of course, Americans know they made a mistake.

    Pure Trumpian, you are experiencing reality avoidance. Don't worry, it is common malady with Trump supporters, a necessary malady for them.
     

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