Disneys New 'Star Wars VII' Is War Propaganda

course this time we got....

 

Hottest FLOTUS ever and another idiot in the Oval Office.

 

That's just it. You don't get it.

It's not just STAR WARS - it has infected the entire Sci-Fi genre. They sell out to corporatism, in the same way Stephen Colbert and Seth Meyers whore out to the Democrat Party.

The propaganda and the merchandising. Iron Man was some stupid war on terror bulls__t.
And last week, I went to the BBC website, there were literally 663 Doctor Who products on
there - every unimaginable kind of trinket, mug - as the shows languish in absurdity.

And did you see that big stupid green monster in 'Dark Night Rises' - what a suck fest -
and the useless cameo of Batgirl - why so they can sell costumes at Holyweenie?

This garbage commercialism is impossible to sit through - why bother w/ Netflix at all ?




https://www.tvstoreonline.com/shop-by-type/masks/bane-adult-mask-with-voice-changer/



Well - no one will listen to Hollywoods political prostitutes anymore, now that they've been exposed as a bunch of molesters.

 

They? Who is "they"? The fans who buy the crap merchandising?

 

Corporate America, movie producers, - who don't want Americans to have heroes - actors just take fat paychecks and play along. Heroes give the people hope or the realization that the status quo can be changed, or like X-Files - they don't want the public to know and gain power from the fact that we Americans can 'Fight the Future.' So corporate America killed the hero. Nolan killed the good guy in Batman, because Christian Bale seemed like some yuppie snob. Star Wars killed Solo, even Mulder is a shadow of his former self. They turned Capt. Kirk into a hot-shot, stuck up punk kid.The Rock is just not a guy you care about, or Angelina Jolie doing cartwheels or even the chick from Kill Bill. These are not accidents. It is the same reason corporate America killed rock n roll and heavy metal with no message posers like Axl Rose, Motley Crue, and Poison, they wanted to kill our culture, kill our soul, and above all kill your heroes warrior spirit to fight and change things for the better.

Something about the new genre whether Bond, Stargate or whoever the actors - don't command a presence like Swarzenneger, Roger Moore or Shaun Connery, where you care what happens to the guy or can relate to them. Daniel Craig as Bond is a classless thug running around shooting everyone. The thing about Luke Skywalker or Han Solo is that they were genuine, thats what made them so popular. There was certainty purity about it, where you knew Ben Kenobi was going to transcend because he embodied the good guy - whereas Christian Bale was some conceited uppity capitalist guy coming out the party with a whore on each arm. i was hoping the whole time that Heath Ledger killed Batman because the new one seemed like a yuppie snob, but I just took the disc out after 40 min. like who needs a 3 hour superhero movie?


Notice that sudden reaction by Han Solos son (dressed as the new Vader) when the General announces his plan to destroy the planets, or when he wavers when Han Solo confronts his son - this is not how evil works

There is no grey area as our politicians use excuses such as 'bad intelligence' on Iraq, ISIS, or 9/11. Evil is diabolic, pre-planned slaughter, war is no accident. The message corporate America wants to send via Disney and JJ Abrams- is that THE CORPORATE WARMONGERS WANT US TO BE PSYCHOLOGIZED TO BELIEVE THERE ARE ONLY SHADES OF GREY in war in order to condition a young or naive generation that current American wars are somehow not caused by our own bureaucrats but by these absurd SHADES OF GREY.


Kylo Ren - Best Scenes - HD (Spoilers)

 

Dude, obviously you didn't grow up during the 60s or 70s. The fad in movies until the late 60s was the hero always wins. Then came both the anti-hero, epitomized by Clint Eastwood's "man with no name" "spaghetti westerns" and killing off the heroes such as in "Hombre", "Easy Rider" and "Electra Glide in Blue".

That said, like most young people, you are blaming older people AKA those in power for your own actions. Those nasty ol' corporations wouldn't be selling Wonder Woman headbands, Batman masks and Star Wars lightsabers if there weren't millions of dipshits out there buying them. In essence, you are blaming drug dealers for selling crap without equally blaming those who buy it. If you have any Star Wars or other movie/comic book memorabilia, you're part of the problem that you are complaining about.

Dude, you can't be taken seriously as a mature adult if you blame others for your own actions.

 

I don't give a s__t what happens to Vin Diesel, or Daniel Craig as the unshaven killer thug.

 

Simply because a movie is about something does not mean it is propaganda for it.

 

What if they were part of the vast global capitalist corporate conspiracy? Would you care then? LOL

 

I'm very much older than you think -

Ron Perlman superb acting perfomance as Hellboy was a character you could root for, along with his green reptillian frog fish sidekick. It's writing/ acting that make a movie not CGI.

You've reacted emotionally to my thread title without reading the pages of posts from others also objecting to the shoddy writing of Sci-Fi and Action films, but paid ZERO attention to the numerous examples of political agendas ...

http://politicalforum.com/index.php...vii-is-war-propaganda.470369/#post-1068257988


When I read Benecio Del Toro had a role in the new ESCAPE FROM THE JEDI - timed for release for XMAS SHOPPERS, i realized Disney was clueless. Just like his NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN (a complete dud) look alike Javier Bardem - cannot act his way out of a paper bag.

But maybe Vin Diesel or The Rock could be a formidable villian or monster suit kicking Batmans , the new stuck up Capt. Kirk, or twirpy shrimp Spidermans arse !

 

OMG, this picture holds more truth than a thousand Trump tweets.

 

I love it when people try to read these deep messages into movies. Star Wars is not some thesis on the human condition, it is merely the fantasies of a young man growing up in a farming town in California. Star Wars is a mix of all of George Lucas's favorite shows, Saturday matinee serials, war movies (especially with dog fights), and samurai movies. The franchise is not a huge success because if follows the "hero's journey", it's a huge success because for $10 a person can forget their troubles for two hours and be immersed in another world where good conquers evil.

Also, any story where parsecs are used as a unit of time instead of distance and there is talk of a mystical energy field that allows one to perform magic, is not scifi, it is fantasy with lasers.

Now don't get me wrong, I love Star Wars, but let's take if for what it is. A fun popcorn movie to make our time on Earth a little more bearable.

 

Agreed. I've really enjoyed the SW movies along with the Star Trek movies and other SF movies. OTOH, some people take them waaaaaay to seriously. Basically, they are boys in man's clothes.

 

The obvious. parallels of Star Trek IV 'Undiscovered Country' ( both Klingon/ Soviet empires dying) and their enemy dialectics - the Klingons had a nuclear explosion (Chernobyl 1986 - duh) and then some Federation conspiracy plot to keep the Cold War afloat - the famous Capt. Kirk scene where he says, "Don't trust them, let them die," before the summit talks.



Sounds alot like the fake news plot when the mass media tried to sabotage relations between Trump-Putin meeting - so the Democrats, Clintonistas could revive the Cold War - looks like there was some political Deja Vu going on in Star Trek IV 'Undiscovered Country'.


Star Trek VI The Undiscovered Country Opening Starfleet Scene With Kirk And Spock






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1) Anyone who uses the term "fake news" is either joking or an idiot uninformed.

2) Modern human beings have been around for over 300,000 years. Modern thinking human beings for over 40,000 years. While tech has changed over the millennia, the basic behavior, desires and flaws of human beings has not.

3) There are only seven basic plots to stories: overcoming the monster; rags to riches; the quest; voyage and return; comedy; tragedy; rebirth.

4) While people can read almost anything into a story and while Hollywood, in the quest for money, try to make stories relevant to audiences for mass appeal, the bottom line is that this is entertainment for profit. No different than when Shakespeare was writing and staging plays at the Globe theater.

 

Don't try to give the members of POLITICAL FORUM a snow job with your lies ...

There was an obvious U.S./ Russia parallel in in Star Trek IV 'Undiscovered Country' ...

The mass media in league with the Democrat Party, Obama -Hillary, reignited war with Russia by

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A. Installing the dictator / invading Ukraine by the CIA and Blackwater killing 50,000 people

B. FAKE NEWS by mass media RE: Russia fixing the 2016 Election against the Clintons

C. Wars are always based on lies.

D. War is a Racket.

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I didn't lie, but once again you are proving yourself to be too young and immature in which to have an intelligent conversation.

Go back to your comic books and Star Trek toy collection, kid.

 

Was just flicking the tv channels ... JJ ABRAHAM directed last nites "Person of Interest"

(something Max Rockatansky wishes he were) episode and - scintillating title for a tv show

by the way JJ - NOT - and ABRAHAM proves he has ZERO capability for creating a

theatrical atmosphere, cannot get a convincing portrayal out of his actors/ actresses, and

has no knack for storytelling.


Like Russel T. Davies, producer of new Doctor Who, JJ ABRAHAM was commissioned by

the corporate state (i.e. the Establishment) to destroy Star Wars intentionally in Last Jedi.








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Conspiracies aside - like my corporate America 'Killed the Hero' on purpose plot -

Like “Twin Peaks: The Return” it's sort of a forgone conclusion these days with Gothic culture / Fantasy and Sci-Fi revivals, not just the pointless pandering, the formulaic pretense and the overly darkened screen hues. It has become such unblemished, tacky, predictable gimcrackery, that even Lynch can't conjure up a worthwhile surprise.

I knew i was in trouble when Jim Belushi appeared. But the thing that bothers me most is the fact that most Hollywood now takes it's audience for granted. They espouse and keep posing as lofty artistry (cloaked with pointless gimmicks) supposedly too much over our heads and "too deep" and that sells and purports itself to be "crafty","visionary" and/or original - but in the end is just David Lynch doing Lost Highway again driving around in circles in the dark (and sucking) the truly edgy elements are too few -

The performance by the Log Lady in contrast with agent Cooper - was very similar to the feeling I got watching the X-Files reboot.

The Log Lady seemed to care about the script and her performance, whereas agent Cooper did not. After the first 2 (season 1) episodes that grabbed your attention, episodes 3 and 4 were little more than advertisements for a Las Vegas vacation.

In the same way, X-Files agent Mulder looked tired of the whole scene, whereas The Lone Gunmans performance was genuine, fired up, and convincing.

I wanted Robert Patrick to appear and slap David Duchovny (who clearly didn't seem like he wanted to be there) in the back of the head, and say, "snap out of it."


Now, of course we're gonna get all the damage control reviews from corporate media mouthpieces about Star Wars: Last Jedi, but don't bother - we all saw what JJ Abrahams did to Star Trek - and he is exec producer on this Disney garbage.

Anyhow - after reading three somewhat disparaging online reviews from obvious David Lynch cult worshippers which had brutal, cynical summations of Twin Peaks surreal, supernatural, past and the present revivals - and the "legend" Lynch stylistic story directions, I had it reading them with their half-hearted *'go see it anyway'* pop culture (psych 101) damage control reviews ...

cha-ching ...

5 paragraph reviews - describing STAR WARS, and TWIN PEAKS mediocrity at best -

BUT *'go see it anyway'* ???

NOT!

SAVE YOUR PSYCHE,YOUR SOUL, YOUR ENERGY AND YOUR $$$

They typify many blog writers who go half arsed when like we've heard when the new Disney Star Wars or Doctor Who re-hash trashed and dashed our hopes.


Even Mark Hamil is on record objecting to the Last Jedi scriptwriters treatment of the Skywalker character.


Go figure.



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WHY THE POWER ELITE KILLED OFF CLASSIC DOCTOR WHO:

The alien who came to earth in a Time Machine phone booth who

fought injustice since 1963

(and appeared on TV screens the same week JFK died ...

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To give SCI-FI fans of Doctor Who and readers of Epic and some idea of how THE POWER ELITE and Corporate Conglomerates exert CENSORSHIP AND CONTROL over the social and poitical messages put forth in Heroic Fantasy series, you can see more evidence of this than by simply reading Michael Moorcocks essays 'Starship Stormtroopers' and 'Epic Pooh,' as I refferred to before in previous pages.

Doctor Who had built a long respectable reputation for a SCI-FI Epic TV series that tackled many serious threats to modern 20th century society - nuclear wars, meltdowns, accidents, poverty, homelessness, starvation, dictatorships, warmongering megalomaniac bureaucrats, mind controlling mass producing of drugs, poisoned environmets, and pollution as well as 'future shock' hypothetical scenarios far ahead of their time, and far more effectively than Twilight Zone, Star Trek, Star Wars, Outer Limits or Hollywood EVER did.

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But when Sixth Doctor Colin Baker took over the lead role on BBCs classic Doctor Who saga in 1984 - the writers tackled such issues as torture on television as a tool to mollify the masses, (Vengeance On Varos), starvation and culling populations to keep social order (The Mysterious Planet), according to some accounts the BBC retaliated ...

"a copy of “The Mysterious Planet” was sent to Jonathan Powell for his consideration, as was routine. Much to the production team's dismay, however, Powell's response on February 24th was scathing. In an unusually detailed commentary, he took issue with several aspects of “The Mysterious Planet”, including the slow reveal of the trial scenario, the lack of clarity as to the nature of the crisis on Ravolox, and the extent of the Doctor's involvement in its resolution. Most frustratingly for Nathan-Turner, Powell seemed to contradict Grade's edict that humour feature more prominently ..."

Michael Grade simply despised the show, and was wanting to kill it off. He had already cancelled it, and was shocked with the response. The "low ratings" argument is a myth. Grade hated Doctor Who and Colin Baker period. Anything else is a smokescreen eg. "Violence", "low ratings", "Close Encounters" etc.

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The creation of a new BBC soap opera called 'Eastenders'. The only way to make this financially possible was to postpone all BBC Drama programmes that were set to enter production in the next six months. Among these was the originally-planned Season 23 of Doctor Who(in fact filming on "The Nightmare fair" was due to start in only ten days, before Grade was his decision known). This was greeted with overwhelmingly negative responses. Doctor Who's postponement was Front Page Headline News. The BBC Board of Governors even called Grade in to defend himself. In September 1986 the new Season 23 finally aired(down to 14 25 minute episodes due to the money required to fund Eastenders and Daytime TV). It was met with a mixed reaction, and most people blamed Michael Grade. Again, Grade had to defend himself to the BBC Board of Governors.



Colin Baker above , the last good Doctor Who

All the excuses BBC controller gave for firing Colin Baker turned out to be HUGE LIES:

Michael Grade was Controller of BBC1. In early 1985 he took the decision to move forward by over a year both the debut of daytime television on BBC1, as well as the creation of a new BBC soap opera called 'Eastenders'. The only way to make this financially possible was to postpone all BBC Drama programmes that were set to enter production in the next six months. Among these was the originally-planned Season 23 of Doctor Who(in fact filming on "The Nightmare fair" was due to start in only ten days, before Grade was his decision known). This was greeted with overwhelmingly negative responses. Doctor Who's postponement was Front Page Headline News. The BBC Board of Governors even called Grade in to defend himself. In September 1986 the new Season 23 finally aired(down to 14 25 minute episodes due to the money required to fund Eastenders and Daytime TV). It was met with a mixed reaction, and most people blamed Michael Grade. Again, Grade had to defend himself to the BBC Board of Governors. At the same time, Grade was dating Liza Goddard. Goddard was Colin Baker's ex-wife. The pair had had an acrimonious divorce, with most people taking Colin Baker's side. Grade hit upon a solution to his problem, as well as a way of pleasing his girlfriend...make Colin Baker a scapegoat. Grade blamed Doctor Who's problems(falsely claiming declining ratings) entirely on Baker. He publically apologised for postponing the show, claiming he was wrong to blame Doctor Who as a whole, when it was all down to the actor playing the Doctor being "rubbish". In this way the fans got an apology for the postponement, Grade's girlfriend was pleased, and Grade himself was seen to be making amends for something he had never even thought about when he made the decision to bring forward Daytime Television and Eastenders! Producer John Nathan fought to keep Colin Baker as the Doctor, but Grade was insistent that Baker MUST be fired.



In Doctor Who Magazine #338 Gary Downie(the Production Manager in 1985) stated: There's a history between Michael Grade and Colin. Liza Goddard was Colin's wife. And she was Michael Grade's best friend. The divorce was acrimonious and she moved into Michael Grade's house while she was getting over the divorce. And I'll say no more. Michael Grade was determined. He did not want Colin working for the BBC.


"The exact details vary depending on who tells the story, but ultimately, BBC Controller Michael Grade ordered the producers to fire Colin Baker because ratings were down, complaints were up, polls showed him to be unpopular in the role, etc."

"Ratings were much higher than under Mccoy, and actually higher than Hartnell or Troughton(when there were fewer channels). The "violence" argument is also bollocks, as at the same time BBC Childrens' Television was making shows that were at least as violent(eg. Oliver Twist). And what about the excessive Mccoy-era violence? And what polls? Using how many people? And there have always been complaints about Doctor Who, with the Tom Baker-era getting the highest concentration of complaints."

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KiLLING THE MESSAGE OF THE GREATEST SCI-FI SHOW
AND HIRING A PROFESSIONAL CLOWN TO KILL OFF THE
DOCTOR WHO FANBASE WITH IDIOTIC, MEANINGLESS PLOTS ...

In the case of BBCs DOCTOR WHO brought in THE POWER ELITE in the form of Michael Grade who hired an unknown nite-club clown, and pantomime improv actor Sylvester McCoy as Michael Grade was Controller of BBC1 steadily dumbed down all programs:

"It was announced in February 1985 that the next series of Doctor Who, scheduled to run from January 1986, would be postponed as Grade had decided that the programme's budget would be better spent on other drama productions.[24] What became an 18-month hiatus for Doctor Who (the series did not resume until September 1986) prompted a strong reaction from viewers"

"He phased out some of its more high-brow programming, for which he was accused of "dumbing down"; Grade retorted that in the same week that he moved to Channel 4, it had shown a repeat of the 1984 adaptation of The Far Pavilions, featuring American actress Amy Irving "blacked up" as an Indian princess. During this period, he was also attacked by the conservative press: Daily Mail columnist Paul Johnson dubbed him Britain's "pornographer-in-chief".



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Grade


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Nice costume on the little brunette. I've never watched the show, but maybe I'll start.

 

It's very difficult to find a movie that does not give praise and glory to war, or crime.

 

You should try chick flicks. Pretty much anything with Renée Zellweger, Sandra Bullock, Drew Barrymore or Julia Roberts.

https://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/best-chick-flicks-in-my-opinion-_

 

hillarious outake ...




And speaking of SCI-FI and Fantasy adventures being turned into Government propaganda -

how bad does the newer 2005 Doctor Who suck with awful SJW messages ?

("hey look how I'm cool, I put homosexual characters")


Now - w/ the new doctor to be a woman, and the whole #metoo bit, it's going to be an even more pretentious - if that's possible -DOCTOR WHO PR DISASTER, and politicized as well.

Doo ya see Intentional 'divide and conquer' between the sexes for the benefit of the POWER ELITES to exploit the masses, would you say ?




Or is it just more fodder for the narcissistic media types Meryl Streep / Katy Perry, Hillary Clinton booster club ... her latest confession, "Dustin Hoffman slapped me too hard in the 1970's" filming Kramer vs. Kramer ?



( she actually said that in reference to comparing herself to a rape/ molestation victim - let me tell ya b--ch there's no comparison)

http://deadline.com/2018/01/meryl-s...kramer-slap-overstepping-the-post-1202235246/


Doctor Who SJW nonsense 'empower women' another example of 'dumbing down' SCI-FI ... what's next ... since the Master and the Doctor ALREADY both regenerated into women (seriously) that means K-9 will become a toaster-oven, and then the villians are bi-sexual Cyber-fellas ?



the awful new DOCTOR WHO was deliberately wrecked from the top of the BBC ... stick to the classic DOCTOR WHO series from (1963-1986).




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The history of the world is primarily about monarchs, Caesars (czars), politicians, and generals with their military fighting forces who participated in the subduing, if not the genocide, of a foreign society for spoils and profits for their own society and personal political aggrandizement -- or who lost in their attempt to do so.

It always will be so while homo sapiens still exist. That's why we memorized all those dates and names in history classes -- to see the continuity of it.