How to fix the tax code fairly............everyone pays 5 percent

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  1. TheDonald

    TheDonald Well-Known Member

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    Yup a flat tax would eliminate the IRS, and simplify everything to a base level. If you make a billion dollars you pay 5 percent and if you make ten thousand you also pay 5 percent.

    The poor will cry when their welfare benefits are taxed.

    Too bad, 5 for all
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Works for me.
     
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    A $500 tax bill for someone who lives paycheck to paycheck...

    ... is a far greater burden...

    ... than a $50,000 tax bill...

    ... who has the discretionary income to afford it.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe they shouldn't live paycheck to paycheck then.

    That's not the governments fault, that is their choice.
     
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    I also like a flat tax. The problem is every person who has advocated such a plan and had it evaluated fairly comes out to more like 15% being needed for the flat tax to work. That would mean a 50% tax increase for some of the poorest people in the country, so it’ll mever happen. Not to mention the issues it would create with various current tax breaks.
     
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    If we are equal, we should pay equal prices. Can a store charge more for goods to a rich person than a poor one?

    5 percent would be fine and you just made up your stat because many rich people pay no taxes at all, so stop making up nonsense as you go
     
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    Do you really think that applying the marginal tax rate is the most complicated thing the IRS does? A 5% flat tax would do very little to uncomplicate the tax code.
     
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    A 5 percent tax would be the tax code, no exemptions no nothing. No brackets, 5 percent for all, the rich would all pay, as would the poor.
     
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    So how much should we call required before we atart taxing? Maybe we can exempt the first 40k someone earns. No joint returns, everyone that makes money is treated the same.
     
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    Actually it would make individual taxes immencely easy.
     
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    Do you understand that there are thousands of pages in the tax code regarding what constitutes income?

    What about investments. Someone puts in $1,000 and gets back $2,000. Based on your simplified tax code, he's taxed on the $2,000 when he should only be taxed for $1,000.

    There are countless more examples like this. The tax code is way more complicated than you realize. And much of that complication is unfortunately necessary.
     
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    5 percent of all income earned in a year, my stock sells would still be charged at a 5 percent rate the only change would be that foodstamps and welfare are taxed as income.
     
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    TheDonald would keep all corporate welfare such as the multiple billions made by the military industrial complex and the trillions sheltered overseas in corporate welfare accounts.

    I say the exact opposite so do all real patriots.
     
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    5 percent for all
     
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    ... only after eliminating all the tax free welfare the elites have gotten
     
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    Nice try. A revenue neutral flat tax would have to be about 17%. A huge tax break for the rich and a huge increase for nearly everyone else
     
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    Many rich pay no tax at all, so how is 5 percent not more than nothing?

    Next
     
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    Yea...people do that because they want to...right

    How's the air on your planet?
     
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    So you want an effective AMT...fine.
     
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    Here is what your taxes pay for, and yes this is her choice

     
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    Republican welfare queen:



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  22. Lesh

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    I see the sock puppet is doing his thing
     
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    Exactly
     
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    Wrong. Nothing was made up and I would encourage anyone who talks about taxes a do some research so they don’t look foolish.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/ben-carson-flat-tax-plan-217320
    http://www.crfb.org/blogs/senator-rand-paul-releases-flat-tax-plan-0
    https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/flat-tax-impact-on-saving-and-the-economy/
    http://www.american.edu/spa/publicpurpose/upload/2011-public-purpose-flat-tax.pdf
    https://budgeting.thenest.com/problems-flat-tax-24710.html

    Besides, a Flat tax of 5% would give the govt $624B in income tax revenue, they currently make about $1.6T. Where you going to make up the difference? Or you just going to take the $1T in the pants?
     

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