NBC fires Matt Lauer after complaint about 'inappropriate sexual behavior'

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  1. Zorro

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    THIS INTERVIEW WAS OVER A YEAR AGO: Meredith Vieira Found A “Huge Bag Of Sex Toys” In Matt Lauer’s Office.

    “I went into your office once. Do you remember this?” asked Vieira. “Snooping. And you had a huge bag of sex toys–do you remember this?” Lauer immediately tried to shift the narrative, asking “if we can explain what happened” before launching into a ridiculous story about having a sex therapist who gifted the hosts sex toys after her appearance on Today.

    As you can tell from the video below, Guthrie and Vieira didn’t buy his story. Guthrie shook her head and had a “can you believe this guy?” smile on her face the whole time, and Vieira repeatedly contradicts him, telling viewers that she remembers a very different version of the day’s events.

    After Variety reported yesterday that Lauer once gave an NBC employee a sex toy as a gift, we have to wonder if what Vieira actually found is something much less innocent than Lauer would have us believe.

    In Lauer’s defense, you never know what a young intern might agree to once you’ve locked her in your office.
     
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    I don't like any of them.
     
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    It would have been a different matter if your daughter had been 16. All the legal leverage would be gone.
    I think you're overstating the situation. Yeah, norms were loosened, but there were still plenty of concerned parents around who weren't buying into their daughters "doing their thing."
    That doesn't let Moore of the hook for things we know about. He did go after high school girls. We don't know, however, if he did anything illegal at the time.
    As someone who has been in politics (thank goodness not as a candidate), I can almost hear Democratic Party operative licking their chops at having more to shoot at. Republicans might gain the Alabama seat and lose the House in 2018, or even lose the Senate in a worst case scenario.
    There was time to force him out, but Republicans were no doubt afraid he'd hang around, split the party, and cost them the seat anyway.

    The part has been weakened by unprincipled Trump supporters who are behaving much like Democrats in black districts. It's no mistake Conyers played the race card against Pelosi. Bill Clinton would never have won the Presidency in 1992 if he hadn't come out an denounced the absurd clown, Sister Souljah. White voters will respond if someone on the Democratic side pulls a Sister Souljah trashing in leading up to the next election.
    Only in the sense some of the claims may be exaggerated--like the one with the 14-year-old. But I tend to believe the woman. Believing and convicting are too different things, however.
    Gloria Allred isn't stupid. My guess is she wouldn't have trotted out the yearbook unless she new the guy ol' Roy wrote it.
    I never bought the mall "watch" story. It doesn't make sense the mall would put an assistant DA on a perp list. That doesn't mean ol' Roy didn't hang around the mall.
    By trashing Jones, Trump is doing everything he can short of showing up in Alabama to support Moore to get Moore elected. Trump will pay a price with moderates for supporting Moore.
    When Democrats excused Bill Clinton, they paid a price in 2000. If Clinton hadn't been a pig, Al Gore would have beat Bush.

    Voters decided they didn't want Clinton booted out of office, but they thought retribution was required at dished it out to Gore.

    McConnell isn't a dummy. He knows Republicans will pay for Roy Moore ... unless Democrats do something really stupid like run Elizabeth Warren. Frankly, I don't think Republicans will get so lucky.
     
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    Your posts are obviously misandristic including your previous post to me. You don't have to prove your false accusations. People are free to lie about others on this forum without a shred of evidence be they misandrists, misogynists or just plain *******s. All you are proving is you are no better than them, not worse.

    Now you or @Renee are free to report me and have my post deleted because your feelings are hurt. It's no matter to me. Because you've refused to discuss such issues like an equal adult, if my post is deleted or I'm thread/forum banned, it's no matter since there is nothing here of value to discuss. Just extremist *******s bitching at each other.
     
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    Allegedly

    You and the elderly woman have nothing but unsupported charges
     
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    Had she been 16 and he was a fine young man it might have been different and it was never a legal thing, it was not illegal for an 18 year old to take a 14 year old to a movie or a party. Had he engaged in sex with her THEN it would have been a legal matter.

    Again alleged, which high school girls said they went on dates with him and have something to substantiate the claim?

    They had nothing to force him out of the race until this came up and then it was too late and yes I can envision the Democrats being told there is someone who is making this claim but lets wait until after the date he can be replaced so that they are stuck with him and we can win by default. Did that serve the voters of Alabama well?

    I'm not following you here how are Republicans behaving like Democrats and they don't go much into black districts because it is a waste of time, blacks are going to vote for blacks no matter what. We have a former judge down here named Herman Thomas who is considering getting back into politics and there is some support in the black community being shown. I'll let you go and do a quick search and see what he was engaged in as a judge. And of course the whole Marion Barry thing. You won't find a lot of high moral ground when it comes to black Democrat politics just look how they are rallying around Conyers.

    Absolutely and then there is the getting on the bandwagon. Remember all the "witnesses" in the Michael Brown shooting but when put to the test by police investigators their stories fell apart or were embellish in order to comply with the "proper narrative" that had been created. That's what gets me about the black woman former police investigators statements and now she is in an opposition political ad.

    She's an opportunist and there are some blaring problems with it and she has not presented an independent forensic analysis of it and is refusing to put it to one.

    Everyone hung around malls back then. They were just opening and had become the places to go, my brother ran the Merry-Go-Round clothing boutique and had his special room upstairs were he took the young girls working there. I worked at a place that build condominiums on an assembly line and they got cheap labor because they hire all us long haired freaks who couldn't get hire elsewhere and hire young girls 18 years and up. There was sex in the apartments we were building and then they would come over to the duplex my brother and I rented and cleaned it and cooked for us and then guess what? It was the sexual revolution then. And yes girls would call us up and ask if we had any quaaludes.

    He hasn't trashed him he has pointed out the he supports killing a baby in the womb up until the time is it to be born and that certainly does NOT represent the views of the state.

    Well he certainly tried to distance himself from Clinton however

    "However, it has been acknowledged that Gore's decision to distance himself from Clinton-whose Gallup approval ratings were well above 50% throughout the year-[51] was a costly mistake for his campaign.[52][53][54]"

    The Democrats and the left love Clinton and would have reelected him had they the chance. They almost put him and his wife, who was up to her eyeballs in defending him and publicly attacking the women he abused, back into the White House a year ago.


    Yet I can't see anyone they have lined up at this point and they continue to move left.

    BTW I appreciate the opportunity to have an adult conversation on a very difficult topic when so many here simply take this as a chance to again just bash the South as a bunch of "hillbilly inbreds".
     
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    Lauer goes one better:

    The media is a village of glass houses

    The New York Post reported Matt Lauer's lawyers seek a $30 million payout from Comcast (NBC) for firing him.

    Hahaha.

    [​IMG]

    From the Post:
    NBC had in 2016 renegotiated a new deal with Lauer valued at $20 million a year which would have kept him on the air through the end of 2018.But moral clauses are often included in TV contracts and specify that talent could be fired without pay if they bring the company into any disrepute.Another TV insider said, “There is no way Matt is getting paid. There has been an irrevocable breach of Matt’s contract, there is a moral clause that says if he brings the company into disrepute — which he clearly has — NBC can terminate his employment immediately without pay and they do not have to pay out his contract.”

    I don't think so.

    Meanwhile, the New York Times became all high and mighty about television presenters showing all the class of Charlie Sheen.

    From the New York Times
    :
    A Failure of the Network News Star System
    Matt Lauer, of NBC News, played the easygoing dad you could rely on — fun-loving but serious enough when he had to be.

    Garrison Keillor, of public radio, was your quirky uncle, quick to spin a yarn, tell a corny joke or even break into a song that, if you paid close attention, just might have a lesson in it.

    Charlie Rose, of CBS, PBS and Bloomberg News, was the urbane, inquisitive host whose Manhattan sophistication was grounded by a humble North Carolina upbringing.

    And Bill O’Reilly, of Fox News — what can you say? To half the block, he was the neighborhood bully. But if you were with him, you swore by him. He was looking out for you and he had your back — as he reminded you every night.

    These media luminaries were just right for the archetypal parts they inhabited for so many years — roles that not only made them big names in broadcasting but also took them to the forefront of the national political discussion.One by one, they have fallen to a range of allegations of sexual misconduct against them — the latest coming against Mr. Lauer and Mr. Keillor on Wednesday. Meanwhile, Vanity Fair reported, "The Times Is 'Torn' About Whether Glenn Thrush Should Lose His Job Over Sexual-Misconduct Allegations."

    Ace reporter Glenn Thrush was outed as a cad who preyed on young reporters.

    From Vanity Fair
    :
    At the Times, known for occasionally obsessive self-reflection, the news prompted enormous anxiety. The news organization that fomented an extraordinary cultural upheaval was suddenly tasked with managing through it. The newsroom, like many others, is on edge. “People are feeling embarrassed, discouraged, and vulnerable,” said one veteran Times editor. The source pointed me to a tweet from a young female digital news editor, Maira Garcia, who wrote: “I’ll say this: I’m proud to work at The Times. I give so much of myself to it, as do so many other women who work there. They are an inspiration. But I can still feel angry, sad and disappointed. And I can also hope that we all come out better in the end.”Times management knows they’re in the spotlight. Executive editor Dean Baquet and C.E.O. Mark Thompson both sent staff memos addressing the matter. “The alleged behavior described in the piece is clearly not in keeping with the values we expect from Times employees,” Baquet wrote. “We plan a thorough investigation . . . and it’s critical that we hold ourselves to the highest possible standards of behavior.”Precisely who, of the men who’ve committed these sorts of offenses, is deserving of a chance at redemption, is a question no one has yet answered — it’s a line that hasn’t been drawn. And given the Times’s importance in the story, Thrush's situation is liable to be a test case.

    I think we can pretty much agree that married men should not be hitting on women.

    OK?

    And I think that we can agree that news organizations should hold themselves to as high as (if not higher) a standard as they do their rivals in the media.

    And finally, I think we all agree that Matt Lauer does not deserve the time of day from Comcast (NBC).

    $30 million.

    Hahaha.

    http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2017/12/the-media-is-village-of-glass-houses.html#more
     
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    They will probably pay him just to make him go away. Doubt if it will be 30 mil though.
     
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    Hillary decides this is all really about her.

    Hillary: Matt Lauer’s downfall feels like karma for that time he was tough on me in an interview

    [​IMG]

    Herself.
     
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    You're looking for a movie ticket stub? C'mon.

    There are witnesses to his hanging around with high school girls. He gives credence to the reports with his comments about how he ended up with his wife.
    Was Trump involved in the release of DNC emails?
    Democrats have long ignored bad behaviour of black pols in predominately black districts.
    I don't think Allred would cook up the yearbook. It makes no sense. She could hurt her reputation.
    You're ignoring the evidence he was dating high school girls.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/moore-dated-highschool-girls_us_5a07944ce4b05673aa59a22f
    Trump put issues above character. He told Alabama voters to do the same.
    I think they've fallen out of love with the Clintons, but I suspect it's more because the Clintons are election losers than anything else.
    A segment has--BLM and the environmentalists. These people will have to be subdued the same way conservatives have kept the lid on extreme pro-lifers--those who wouldn't allow abortion in the case of rape, for example.
    It wasn't hard to have some respect when my father-in-law was a farm boy from Canton, Missouri. He went from the farm to flight school, then became a USAAC/USAF test pilot, and finally commanded the test pilots at Wright Patterson. He was one smart guy. I don't think I've ever met snyone as cool in a tight situation.
     
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    I am sorry but I am not aware of this paid prostitute who live he falls charges against a Republican candidate. I do know that Republicans had a woman say that Moore impregnated her hoping that they would print this and then the Republicans would say she was lying which she was ..on purpose. Will you send me the link?
    You obviously have no understanding of sexual traumas. I wish I could get a platform for the man who sexually abused me. And there are a lot more than 1 million people tweeting .
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/metoo-more-than-12-million-facebook-posts-comments-reactions-24-hours/
    Obviously you believe .moore and do not believe all the other women who had similar experiences, who did not know each other , and had nothing to gain. You believe him and I believe the women.
    This is what we call circumstantial evidence because obviously a woman who is raped with no witnesses can’t prove anything. But if several women who don’t know each other and have the exact experience it changes the scenario. Plus he admitted he had a penchant for little girls
     
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    Good point. Like Trump, Hillary certainly has the ego to think everything is about her.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/media/362823-clinton-on-matt-lauer-every-day-i-believe-more-in-karma
    Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton commented Thursday night on longtime NBC host Matt Lauer's firing, remarking that she believes in the concept of karma a little more "every day," Philly Voice reports.

    Clinton was speaking in Philadelphia as part of her national book tour promoting her memoir, "What Happened," which looks at her unsuccessful 2016 presidential campaign.

    “Every day I believe more in karma,” Clinton said when asked about Lauer's firing, before lumping him in with several other “men who shaped the narrative” who have been fired over similar allegations of sexual misconduct
    .

    http://thehill.com/homenews/media/3...ed-off-at-matt-lauer-for-email-questions-book
    Hillary Clinton was "ticked off" at NBC’s Matt Lauer for asking too many questions about her email scandal to the point that she felt "almost physically sick" at a nationally televised presidential forum held last September in New York.
    The revelation comes in the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee's new memoir, titled “What Happened,” which provides Clinton's perspective on what led to her stunning loss last November to President Trump.
     
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    Damn that Hill.....they should know better than to make The Leftness and their excuses about Links, look like they don't have a clue.
     
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    Agreed. Facts and links are always better than emotional rhetoric and screaming factless partisans.
     
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    She was talking about the sexism in politics....and getting fired for the the most sexist act is the karma she was talking about. Did you see the interviews?
     
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    Well your post is quite disjointed but.
    "Yes, but also Steve Windom, 1998.

    Political observers scratching their heads over why some Alabama voters would not automatically believe allegations in The Washington Post this week that Senate candidate Moore initiated sexual contact with a 14-year-old girl in 1979 when he was a 32-year-old prosecutor, need look no further than the 1998 race for lieutenant governor.

    Windom at the time was trying to become the first Republican in a century to win the office when former prostitute Melissa Myers Bush stepped forward to accuse him of raping and sodomizing her. The allegation rocked the campaign and turned his race against Democrat Dewayne Freeman upside down.

    Political analysts at the time could think of no comparable allegation against a major candidate so close to Election Day.

    “This would even go lower than the skunk ad, which was silly in some respect,’” University of Alabama political scientist William Stewart told the Associated Press at the time, referring to an attack ad run two years earlier comparing a state Supreme Court candidate to the smelly animal.

    Windom, now a lobbyist, could not be reached for comment. He went on to win that race after his accuser’s story fell apart. Bush ended up recanting her story which she had told on videotape, that Windom had sexually assaulted her in 1991.

    Bush testified in 2000 at a criminal trial that she accepted money to make the allegation. Others testified the amount was $5,000.

    A jury convicted Garve Ivey, an attorney who long had been active in politics, of a misdemeanor criminal defamation offense. A judge sentenced him to 30 days in jail and fined $1,000, although an appeals court overturned the conviction the following year."
    http://yellowhammernews.com/featured/steve-windom/

    That wasn't Republicans.

    And it is not a matter of do I believe one or the other. There is not enough we know to make such a conclusion and until it can be properly vetted and adjudicated we wont know. In the meantime we have an election here. Have yiu noticed how it has all gone away? Don't you think the MSM us doing everything it can to come up with kore evidence AGAINST Moore but we have hears not seen nothing? And 40 years ago and nothing since@
     
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    When it came to sexism and the media, it was Weiner who brought up the elephant in the room, reading out a section of What Happened about the September 2016 Commander-in-Chief Forum on NBC, in which the host separately interviewed both candidates but was notably tougher on Clinton than Trump. That host? Matt Lauer.

    “Every day I believe more in karma,” Clinton said to that, referring further to several “men who shaped the narrative” during the campaign who have since been sidelined in the wave of sexual harassment scandals.
    HILLARY CLINTON DISPLAYS HER USUAL LEGENDARY SELF-AWARENESS:

    Thursday night, a little more than a year after her shocking loss to President Donald Trump, Secretary Clinton returned to Philly for a promotional event at the Academy of Music for her campaign memoir, What Happened. At the event, which was sold-out but not quite full, with an audience about two-thirds female, Clinton was interviewed on-stage by Philly native and best-selling author Jennifer Weiner.

    When it came to sexism and the media, it was Weiner who brought up the elephant in the room, reading out a section of What Happened about the September 2016 Commander-in-Chief Forum on NBC, in which the host separately interviewed both candidates but was notably tougher on Clinton than Trump. That host? Matt Lauer.

    “Every day I believe more in karma,” Clinton said to that, referring further to several “men who shaped the narrative” during the campaign who have since been sidelined in the wave of sexual harassment scandals.

    Bill Clinton unavailable for a response.
     
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    Liberals Hate Being Held to Their Own Standards.
     
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    Slick Willie set the predator bar pretty high...
     
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    Unless you have a copy of Lauer's personal service agreement (labor contract) you really have no idea what's contained within it. If his lawyer is trying to get severance from NBC, then its quite possible that the language contained therein is vague and there is a chance that he'll get what his lawyer is seeking.
     

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