63,000 people in USA died from drug overdoze in 2016.

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  1. CCitizen

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    Ethnic white Americans and drugs......
     
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    I have trouble feeling sorry for those who commit suicide by drug. You play with fire you die. Not my fault.
     
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    I agree with this.
     
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    I have a hard time being sympathetic here and this is why.

    All I think about is the consequences that the choice of free will that these people made/continue to make.

    Their drug use enables a massive system of criminality that extends from the local, to the state, to the region, to the nation, to other nations, to other continents, to the world itself.

    It requires we expend countless hundreds of billions of dollars, waste vital medical resources, puts LEOs and care givers at risk to death and disease, and ends or destroys the lives of innocents.

    And, you know what, the more I think about it the less I care.

    Yea, its the same sad story with every problem.

    We fail to do what is necessary at every avenue in the drug epidemic.

    We refuse to permanently incarcerate repeat offenders instead favoring to set them free knowing damn well that they will continue to offend and perpetuate the cycle.

    We refuse to allow our LEO's to do their job because they might have to work from gut feeling to apprehend drug dealers and that's somehow "racist".

    We know damn well where the international drug labs are, we know where the drug lords mansions and warehouses are, we know their vehicles, we know their routes, we know their operations, and yet we refuse to put every single bomber we have into the air and bomb the mother ****ers relentlessly until they beg our mercy.

    And of course, of course, we refuse ..WE FLAT OUT ****ING REFUSE ..to secure our borders.

    So you know what?

    **** the people who die because of their own stupid ass choices.

    Why should I have what amounts to empty sympathy?

    Their lives just don't measure up to the innocents or to the societies they endanger with their choices.

    And if society isn't ready to get serious about the problem then I have no guilt over washing my hands of it.

    /rant
     
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    The only concern I have is for those people who are being over-prescribed addictive substances by doctors, who then get addicted to those substances on a prescription, then get cut off cold when the prescription runs out.

    Often these people trust in the people prescribing these pills and often don't understand the risks of "taking as prescribed".

    We have an entire industry dedicated to getting as many people buying pills as possible. The number of people we have on legally prescribed drugs in this country is staggering.
     
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    If they died from a prescribed dose it still counts as an overdose
     
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    If you take the prescribed dose, how is that an overdose?

    Unless, of course, this is just another case of inept medical practitioners, who kill far more people in this country than anything else.
     
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    Yea I tried to avoid that because I guess, to me, I see that as a slightly different circumstance than your crack head, meth head, coke head, etc, cases.

    I know there's a lot of overlap and escalation there so I'll add one more line to my rant:

    We refuse to address the practice of over-prescribing and the installment of personal responsibility that would prevent the person who was handed a bottle of opioids for a legitimate reason from becoming an addict.
     
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    I'm just wondering how many of the huge spike in heroin deaths are due to Obama allowing Hezbollah to smuggle it into the country.
     
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    It was a win/win for Obama and his pro-Islamic terror friends.

    Iran got the go-ahead for its nuclear weapons program plus the funds to cover it, and Hezbollah operated its $1 billion dollar plus crime ring with Presidential impunity.

    Obama and dozens of his staff should be brought up on criminal charges over this one but of course they wont be...

    There should be massive new coverage but of course there isn't...

    I mean there's a lot for people to argue across the isles about in Obama's terrible reign but this thing should be a no-brainier.
     
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    Sad but true.
     
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    For the last 3,300 years Judaism has taught that all human life has paramount value. For the last 2,000 years Christianity taught the same. George Washington believed that All Humans are Created Equal. Sadly some people have no empathy for depressed people who die from drugs.
     
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    In my nephews case he was introduced to opioids in the military. Most of these addictions start with proscribed medications.
     
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    I have Moderate Depression. Why are people with Severe Depression not worthy of help?
     
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    Thank you for sharing. Most people who get addicted suffer Depression from the beginning.
     
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    Most of them suffered Severe Depression.

    Judaism, Christianity and Islam consider human life to be of paramount value.
     
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    For my nephew it was headaches and a bone spurs on his neck that had to be removed during ranger training. The addiction eventually ruined his intellect and unfortunately it was my sister that found him when he died. We all loved him but those addicted either hit bottom and rebound or die.
     
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    Thank you for sharing.

    I have Moderate Depression, but my parents help me.
     
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    If you are depressed there can only be two reasons.
    1. You have no healthcare, or have not seen a doctor
    2. You are seeing the wrong doctor.
     

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