What To Do About The Long-Term Implications of Automation

I'm praying you're trying to be funny.

 

After tax credits and decuctions most people in the bottom 10% pay no federal income tax

 

You should not say things that you cannot prove

 

Federal payroll taxes are still paid regardless as to whether or not they pay income taxes. Those taxes cover Social Security and Medicaid.

 

Ironic!

 

You mean SS and Medicare not medicaid

But you have a meaningless point since this debate is about federal income taxes not payroll taxes

 

Payroll taxes ARE federal taxes paid as a percentage of your income.

If all you have now are semantics you are conceding your position.

 

The new tax law did not cut payroll taxes for anyone

This debate is about federal income taxes

 

If you are saying the hottom ten percent of the taxpayers pays no taxes you are correct although that doesn't necessarily make them moochers.

If you are saying the people in the ten percent tax bracket pay no taxes which s what your previous post stated then you are still confused about how the tax system actually works. That would indicate you probably have never actuslly paid taxes and fit in the first category.

 

You are fallaciously alleging that they are not paying federal taxes and calling them "moochers".

Just admit that everyone who works pays federal taxes and we can move on.

 

Would you have banned automobiles to save the buggy manufacturers?

We will have to figure out how to adapt, but banning automation isn't the solution. Not sure what the solution is, but it's not banning automation.

 

The topic here is income taxes not payroll taxes

 

Try and respond to my post. You appear to be not only confused about how the income tax system works but also apparently incapable of reading and responding to the right post.

 

Thanks to rax refunds the bottom 10% are paying almost no federal income tax

And that makes them tax mooches compared to the other tax brackets

 

You keep telling me I am confused without pointing out how I’m am confused

 

Not even remotely the same thing.

 

Wage stagnation for hardworking Americans does not make them "moochers" but hardly surprising that you are denigrating our fellow Americans who are less fortunate than yourself.

 

Not getting an education or learning a trade leads to wage stagnation

But the flood of unskilled immigrants, refugees and illegal aliens are depressing wages for American workers too

So its not entirely the moochers fault

 

Complete and utter bovine feces!

Wage stagnation has nothing whatsoever to do with any of those things.

 

The laws of supply and demand apply to labor

Too many desperate workers chasing too few jobs leads to falling wages

The flood of migrants over the past 30 years has harmed American workers

 

I wont waste time playing Go-Fetch with close minded liberals

Dont you think the presence of millions of low income illegal aliens depresses ?wages

 

Apparently you don't believe in the supply and demand of labor as it pertains to wages? Why should an employer pay a worker $30/hour if another worker says I'll do that same job for $15/hour? And even if an employer was stupid and paid $30/hour for $15/hour jobs, if their competitors don't also pay $30/hour then the competitors win. All an employer must do is pay a wage that will attract and sustain the labor needed to satisfy their product and services demands. Meanwhile, 80-100 million Americans directly or indirectly own public stock, and all of them demand the best ROI on their investments. Many complain about corporate profits but nothing that people have today cannot exist without these profits. Everything that a business does to keep the doors open, to remain profitable, to be able to grow, etc. are common business decisions...there are NO wage conspiracies or wage stagnation.

Now when you talk about a person who is unhappy with their position in life, it is their job to make changes, to learn new skills, to obtain more education, to make better decisions, etc. None of these things will ever be solved by government...

 

So wave your magic wand and remove all illegal immigrants from the workforce. Once you do this please explain who will perform these jobs? How much compensation will they demand? What will be their job performance and attendance?

Lastly, use some logic; If Americans were doing all those jobs you claim are taken by 'others', then there would be no jobs for 'others'. The ONLY reason 'others' are in these jobs is because Americans ARE NOT competing for the jobs...

 

Using your definition of a worker you believe a worker does not need skills, or education, or performance, etc. yet these same workers have a right to complain about wage stagnation?

News flash! All workers are competing with other workers! It's not company welfare. If a worker does not perform to expectations the company will find another worker who will. If a person does not like their wages, it's that person's responsibility to differentiate themselves from others by obtaining more skills or education or whatever might be needed to achieve more. Whining about wages is what babies do...

 

The US has done a great job of creating their own failed workforce...no need to give credit to 'others' as the problem. In fact, as an American, if I could not compete against 'others' in the work place I would feel like a failure! If I didn't like lower wages then it would be MY job to obtain more skills and education to increase my potential in the workplace...not complain about 'others'...