LEAKED MEMO: DREAMers Are ‘Critical’ To Dems ‘Future Electoral Success’

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There you have it, folks, democrats have openly admitted the people who come here illegally will ultimately vote for democrats if given a chance - it's all about the votes and we've cons have said that from day one.

    The way I see it, this memo spells out the compassionate talking points the left is supposed to use to sell DACA and their base will fall in line and repeat those same bogus talking points. But then the fear comes in, and we all know how the democrats use fear to sell what they want to sell, and they're basically told they need the votes to regain power. How many of us have heard the fake compassionate talking points from democrats but never heard a peep about the votes they expect to get from illegals becoming legal?

    For those of you who question the source, a copy of the leaked memo can be seen at the link.

     
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    The minute folks understand that democrats don't actually have their best interests at heart they recoil in horror at the base political power grab they've been a part of.... Well, a guy can dream, right??
     
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    We all know the democrats are pinning their hopes on illegals to become citizens somehow and then vote for the donkey party.
    Nothing new here.
     
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    Did you read the memo or just parrot what someone told you it means? Just asking because it's clear that the memo is pointing out that DACA is a very important issue for American voters with a Latino heritage. The Hispanic and Latino population makes up the 2nd largest demographic in the US of LEGAL US citizens. Their power as a voting block will continue to grow in the coming year and the GOP has decided to do its best to alienate them to the GOP's peril.

    Nowhere in the memo is wooing illegal voters mentioned. The entire memo lays out why the fight for Dreamers is supported by many within the Democratic Party even as support for the GOP wanes among Latino and Hispanic voters.

    But feel free to continue to misrepresent the contents of the memo.
     
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    1. Any non-citizen who has at any point entered the country illegally is banned for life, no exceptions.

    2. No poor will be admitted.

    3. Anyone with a masters degree is eligible.

    4. Anyone willing to start a business is eligible if it lasts 5 years.

    5. Immigration should be capped at 1/10th the number of native births in any given year.

    6. Chain migration is abolished.

    7. The border is enforced.



    Problem solved.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Lets put it simply. Trump is holding people who came here as children and did nothing wrong as hostages to build his moronic wall to fulfill a campaign pledge to his most xenophobic supporters. ​
     
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    Yes. That's a simple way to look at things, alright.
    Nobody is being held "hostage" because no one brought to this country illegally is owed anything by the US!

    Are Bernie Madoff's children "owed" a share of the money their father embezzled? Why not think that puzzler over for awhile
    and then post again when you've gotten smarter about this issue.
     
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    I’m still rolling on the floor from Trumps DACA Meeting where The Republicans had no f’ing idea what the President was talking about.

    I don’t about you, but it sound to me like The Dreamers have a Path to Citizenship

    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Well Perhaps you can explain how children brought to this country by their parents through no volition of their own is analogous to Bernies adult children profiting forom his Ponzi scheme. The Dreamers are not getting any unearned wealth. They are getting a chance to compete in the American market place of work and ideas which apparently makes you and other feel threatened perhaps because you feel unable to compete.
     
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    The President has no idea what he is talking about and it will change tomorrow anyway. By now we should all be smart enough not to pay any attention to the Trump thought ( and I use the term advisably) of the minute.
     
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    Wow so Trump screwing the Dreamer children is going to be a plus for Democrats. Wow, what an amazing revelation. How long did it take you to comprehend that amazing concept.
     
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    Clearly the Dreamer children are benefiting just by virtue of being here (instead of in the dysfunctional squalor of Mexico). That's why the children were illegally brought across the border, right? To be here instead of there?

    Could you really not figure that one out by yourself?

    I have competed just fine, thank you and your amateurish attempt to put me on the defensive was rather sad. This isn't about me or any other US citizen.
    If these children of illegals are the dynamos you seem to think they for some reason are, then I'm quite sure they will make out fine as green card aliens (in a best case scenario for them) or on the other side of the border (in a less than best case scenario). Bye now.
     
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    It didn't misrepresent it, it was in fact brutally honest. The current abuse of de jure citizenship, gave an import of future voters. If both parties wanted, both could take advantage of the current situation. Indeed, that was a part of the 2012 reassessment: Go with it GOP. But reading these words, make me far-'right' once again on the issue: Our laws were broken, period. Whether by toddlers, or teenagers, etc it's all inconsequential: They broke our laws. And the law cannot remain the same, if it can be easily violated in the future.

    I might, might be willing to have them go back in line and properly register as a US Citizen, but our de jure citizenship laws were meant for and by American Families. Not for imports who happen to bare on US Soil.
     
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    The memo, co-authored by former Clinton communications director Jennifer Palmieri, was sent around to allies calling on Democrats reminding them that illegal immigrants are a "critical component of the Democratic Party's future electoral success."

    As the American Voter strips them of their power, they look to import new voters. This is their plan to disenfranchise the American People
     
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    Nope sorry Trump's approval rating is a record low despite pandering to the basest instincts of his supporters. And yes when the President of the United States has to pander to his base by deporting children who have done nothing wrong that says a great deal about his decency and the humanity of his supporters.

    Deporting people who have knowingly broken the law is morally separate from hurting children who were brought to the US through no fault of their own and who have grown up knowing mo other country than America.
     
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    Sometimes the law is an ass.
     
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    So where are these children being deported or is it just more bs by you.
     
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    Thanks for noticing.

    I try to make at least 1000x more sense than the RW Fever Swamp Tinfoil Hat crowd.
     
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    No shot liberal white people don't reproduce in significant enough #s. They are well below the replacement rate.
     
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    Because in each case the children would be profiting from their parent's law breaking. Duhh!

    They are in the sense they shouldn't be here at all, if our laws were obeyed which as you know illegals don't care about. By virtue of being on this side of the border rather than that side they are profiting plenty! Grow up.
    What is the point of being here otherwise?

    I don't feel threatened at all but nice try attempting to make this about me.
    What a lightweight argument!
     
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    Give me a list of the children of illegals he has deported. It says a lot about your "decency and humanity" when you can't even honestly discuss the issue.


    If it matters that much to democrats then
    they need to yield on chain migration and the border wall.
    Otherwise we will see their rhetoric as just phony appeals to get hispanic votes.
     
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    If going to a country people have never known is so bad then why do illegals leave a country they know and come to a country they never knew? And I'm doubling down on middle eastern refugees where not only do they not know the language and culture of this country, their culture and values conflict with ours.

    What you're arguing is it's in the best interest of immigrants not to leave countries they know or move to countries they don't.
     
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    Change the 1/10th to 1/1000th and you get my vote.
     
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    What a shame that their country of origin sucks so bad that they have to flee from it. It is also a shame that they lack the courage to stay there and fix it. Perhaps one of those dreamers would have become the leader that would turn the mess around.
     

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