With cameras rolling, Trump urges both parties to cut deals on immigration

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  1. Covfefe

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    Yeah I pretty much assumed this as well, havnt heard a peep about fire and fury in the msm so, success!
     
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    The consensus among both sides is that now its even more unclear where the president stands on DACA and the wall.
     
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    Opinion not fact. That's a distinction that may not be obvious to many tRUmp supporters.
     
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    With DACA he did a forceplay on Congress, both the Dems and the GOP. Now they are forced to do something and if nothing happens the blame is on them. Not only did he put the Dem's gonads in a vise he fit the GOP's in there also. As far as the wall goes, the wall could still be a campaign point in the midterms or used as a negotiation point a year or more from now.I would love to get some of the MSM talking heads and some of the posters here in a poker game. All you can see are the beltway politics of the last two decades when you should be looking back to Reagan, Johnson and Kennedy
     
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    I never claimed Obama “never met with the GOP”, but when he did, he told them to F off. They returned the favor by opposing what they could on his agenda, in other words, they did their job somewhat.

    Now it’s your turn to sit in the back of the bus and shush up as it’s the DNC’s turn to get steamrolled.
     
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    Obama gave the GOP the healthcare bill they wrote genius! LMAO

    Obamacare was written by REPUBLICANS! LOLOL
     
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    Is that why Obamacare sucks so much and had to be gutted via the repeal of the individual mandate? Because the Republicans wrote it?

    That John Gruber guy is a Republican right?
     
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    Surely you have heard of the Heritage Foundation. LOL
     
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    Of course I have. That doesn’t explain why it sucked (past tense since it’s defanged and Obama is at home crying like a girl over his signature accomplishment being wiped away, poor little guy)

    Nice deflection though.
     
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    The only ones bringing up Obama 24/7 is you Trump loving psychopaths! LMAO!

    Psssssst. Trump has been POTUS for over a year now. When will you move on? Your guy won! LOL
     
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    Over a year? Check the date there first.
     
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    How stupid, this is what a CEO does. He get's both sides in, lays out his demands, praises both sides ideas and says figure it out and we can get this done. You guys sure are pissed about what the rest of the country sees as a good thing, quite amusing watching your panties all bunched up because Trump isn't acting like a king or dictator. Go on with your hatefilled BS rhetoric, it's all you got.
     
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    How, exactly, is saying, "I will sign whatever you bring me, even if I don't like it" laying out his demands?
    Can you identify exactly what his demands are, based on this meeting?
     
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    He clearly said Daca fine with the wall. You come up with the rest in a bipartisan way and I'll sign it. He has two main goals the rest is negotiable. That's what leaders do. You accuse him all the time of playing king now your critiquing him for being a negotiator.
     
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    Awwwww. Did I hurt your feelings Buttercup?
     
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    That is what you WANT him to have said, but he didn't say that clearly, consistently, repeatedly. Even S Sanders later would not confirm that he wanted a wall. She kept referring to border security.
    He said:
    - we can do a clean DACA and do comprehensive reform later
    - we can do comprehensive reform right away
    - I will sign whatever you bring me, even if I don't like it

    He said something for everyone. No consistent and clear position. He said everything, so he said nothing. That is not a leader. That is a lack of leadership.
     
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    WOW!! Are you trying to blame Obamacare on Republicans? If that's the case why was Nancy Pelosi so keen on keeping it hidden until it was passed? She could have just directed them to the Heritage Foundation for the details, and given them the credit as well. Obama has been slow in offering them his support and congratulations also.
     
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    Those leftists are something else, huh? There's another female on here complaining about another woman's appearance.

    The Democrats will continue to decline with supporters like this until self reformation, or a third party is formed to take their place.
     
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    Not at all Buttercup. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of the GOP being against something they wrote over 2 decades ago. LOL
     
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    Do you have a link to what they wrote over two decades ago and how it compares to Obamacare? I doubt that.
     
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    Here you go. Sounds an awful lot like Obamacare to me. LOL


     
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    Does it? Then provide a proper link and a statement by Obama that that was his inspiration for Obamacare.
     
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    Why would I provide a link for something I never said? LMAO
     
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    You didn't say "Obama gave the GOP the healthcare bill they wrote genius! LMAO. Obamacare was written by REPUBLICANS! LOLOL"?

    Then provide a link to prove your point, Buttercup, and an acknowledgement by Obama. Do you seriously expect anyone to take your word for it?
     

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