She Banned Muslims Before Trump. Now She Wants to Be Governor

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  1. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    Does she have any kind of a chance? Is she just too extreme to ever get elected? Are there absolutely no legitimate concerns about Muslim immigration to the US?

     
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    More right wing crazies in the GOP?

    They've pretty much taken over
     
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    I recently saw a woman driving a car with Arkansas plates. I noticed in passing and thought, she's a long way from home. Then I saw the bumpers sticker. It said, "Arkansas, as racist as you think!"
     
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    naturally, she calls herself a "born again Christian"
     
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    You appear to be conflating "absolutely no legitimate concerns about Muslim immigration" with "every Muslim is an inherent threat."
     
  6. VotreAltesse

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    Here is one of the very last revelation of Muhammed :
    Quran, Surate 9, verse 111
    Indeed, Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah, so they kill and are killed. [It is] a true promise [binding] upon Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. And who is truer to his covenant than Allah ? So rejoice in your transaction which you have contracted. And it is that which is the great attainment.

    For muslims, the Quran is the word of God revealed to Muhammed, that's not the word of Muhammed.
    On the thousands of verse muhammed revealed, he revealed only 21 other, 18 in the Surate 9, 3 in the surate 110. So that kind of verse, it's for muslims the pinnacle of the revelation of God, what said Muhammed at the end of his life.

    I would worry that some people come in my country and that the most sacred text in the world they have define them as people who "kill and are killed [in the cause of Allah]".

    Islam is an ideology, and it's legitimate to not wish any people who have an ideology who prone murder.
     
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    Get out your check books leftness and send a check to her opponent. It's the American way.
     
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    It's Arkansas.
     
  9. JakeStarkey

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    She and her candidacy are the symptoms of the GOP disease that must run its course.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the fringes, the bigots and the paranoid all suffer from this kind of fallacious extrapolation. Its part of their emotional short circuiting of their intellectual processes. Far more pervasive than just this example
     
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    Every muslims believe in the quran. Every muslims believe that the quran is god word so every muslims think that god actually said that for instance :
    And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way (establish prayer and give zakah mean becoming mulsim). Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

    There is other sentences of that kind in the quran. I don't know for you, but I don't appreciate ideologies who prone murder.
     
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    Then you don't like the Bible
     
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    Christians don't kill people by hundreds in my country. The most important parts of the quran are the latest revelation (Surate 9), the most important parts of the Bible are what Jesus says (if someone hit your cheek, tend the other, love god and love your ennemy, pray for your ennemies).
    The bible have more violent words in it (and it's overall bigger than the quran) however, the most important one is the new testament and what Jesus says, most important parts of the quran are Surate 9 which is full of call to murder.
     
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    Christians kill lots of people in my country. Since you are not a Quran expert, I will refrain from commentary on your comment on that.
     
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    In Arkansas, she might have a chance. What was curious to me is the article you chose to post, which is written by a man named, DEAN OBEIDALLAH.
     
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    I don't care of not being expert, I red it and I can access many translations. I red about the life of Muhammed and I know how he lived his life. I know too what's happening in many muslim countries.
     
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    does every christian believe in the bible? Do they go around killing gays and non virgin brides? Do they turn the other cheek? Do they take in strangers?

    Of course there are a small number of scumbags who use such passages to pervert people's faith to achieve said scumbag's political and personal power ambitions. True believers can be some of the easiest people on the planet to manipulate from the "inside".
     
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    Exactly. The blue. It runs deep there....
     
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    Well, I prefer to have christian fanaticals like mormons or jehovah witness than salafi djihadist. The only thing jehovah witness are actually mistreating is my doorbell.

    Furthermore, even as a non christian, I'm grateful to the christian civilizaiton to have brought 90 % of the material comfort I live in.
     
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    Many people have legimate concerns about muslim immigration

    Morgan may have been pushed so in the anti muslim direction by pro muslim fanatics like obama
     
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    Zealots are a problem, whether Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, or ay other flavour of supernaturalist.

    Bigots who are pissy about (inevitably another) religion would do better to direct their animosity at zealots.
     
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    More of a chance in Arkansas than Illinois, but still slim to none.
     
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    Yep. much prefer the non violent fanatics. Yes, we all should be grateful for the effort and good works our ancestors.
     
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    many moderate republicans are jumping ship, so is only gonna get worse, but in 2018 and 2020, the people will let their voices be heard
     
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    yet is probably against immigration from Mexico, one of the most Christian nations in the world, much more Christian then us

    maybe the right doesn't like Catholics
     
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