Legal marijuana cuts violence says US study, as medical-use laws see crime fall

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The numbers don't lie people. It's what medical cannabis advocates have been saying all along. Legalize it and crime will drop. The cartels will go out of business.

This is a great point, but not the only reason to legalize cannabis. It has also been shown to reduce overdoses and use of anxiety meds too.

One day it will be legal everywhere and people will see that it was all a lie.

 

Awesome.

I wish they'd legalize Cocaine.

 

Why? I mean, I am against imprisoning drug addicts anyway, but it sounds like you are being sarcastic.

Edit: Sorry, I just saw the underlined part of your comment and now I see your point. Yes, I agree very much.

 

There is some truth to that.

But cannabis increases the cucaracha population so they said back during the 60's.

 

Cocaine use to be legal until progressives criminalized cocaine.

 

Sure, but it still makes white women run around with black men. Reefer madness!!

In all seriousness though we have only been saying this would happen for decades.

 

Legalize drugs, outlaw large sodas. I just don’t get it.

 

Yes.

It was even an ingredient in Coca-Cola way back when.

I think the best argument for legalizing it, is that the average "man/woman on the street" could get a higher level of purity.

Of course in my case, my supply is as pure as possible.

But, if it was legalized and taxed, the average Joe/Jane could get a better product that wasn't as stepped on.

 

What don't you get? The fact that legalizing marijuana has reduced drug violence like we all said it would, or that you can't let go of one proposed law in one city five years ago?

 

99.9% chance this another one of those <quote> studies <unquote> that starts with a preconception and sets out to 'prove' it.

muh science

 

so do I, no reason for it not to be, for years it was an ingredient in coca cola, it's a stimulant, it can be abused, but not everyone abuses, same as beer or any other substance

adding it to diet pills could solve obesity

arrest people for committing real crimes on drugs or alcohol, not for the drugs themselves, no one has a right to disorderly conduct in public, ect... even with legal substances

 

You mean like all those anti pot studies? We know this is bad for people, so we will give someone more pot than anybody smokes in a week daily to prove it!

 

Let me guess, you'd have government provide it, free of charge, to the raft of unemployed addicts. (so they wouldn't break in YOUR house to steal YOUR stuff to pawn to buy cocaine)

 

most do not agree with either being illegal, you should decide, not the government

 

Yeah, kinda like Big Tobacco's studies that declared smoking harmless...

 

actually the Nixon Administration created the classification system we have today, the war on drugs is a republican construction

but most republicans and democrats agree this is not a role of the federal government

the reason they came up with the classification system is because the public would never support prohibition laws after alcohol prohibition, this allowed congress to wash their hands of it and give the control to others

 

Actually cocaine was made illegal as per the war on drugs which was mainly to attack black people who they needed a law to criminalise their behavior that they could easily let white people off on. The drug war is a huge war on poverty and people who have little money to defend against legal charges. Drugs are a lovely non crime where you can buy your way out of punishment and conviction leading to the biggest victims of the laws being the poor and powerless. Even white poor people could get breaks through relatives and racist decisions by courts allowing for blacks and brown people to be more heavily prosecuted for drug selling and use.

The only problem with those laws was that drugs like cocaine and natural options come mainly from plants with very specific areas where they can grow. Interestingly these areas are more often on foreign soil controlled by Brown people. This is one of the reasons why there is less opposition to legalised marijuana. Marijuana growth can be more easily done in the US and European climates. Tobacco also is easier to grow in the U.S. which is why it has never seen itself become illegal. Poppy plants are easy to spot and regulated, and cocoa is hard to grow in the U.S. due to climate. The US can also manufacture synthetic options easier than one can grow poppy plants in country.

This allows an interesting way to keep crime in charge of foreign lands like south America and Asia and pay local criminals to destabilise legitimate governments and weaken them. You can never establish a police state in those countries that has allowed America to prosper in industrialization while you have well funded criminals who oppose industrialized countries police power being funded more by drug trafficking than the taxes collected by law abiding citizens can compete with. You will never see legitimate industry flourish in south America because you cannot secure the wealthy who would create it with the drug empires running about. This is why NAFTA will always fail because you cannot get decent workers and legitimate business in a place where some drug Lord can just steal your money and kidnap law abiding rich families for the ransom. You can never lift those people up.

The only reason the Chinese ended up getting anywhere was because their government went and took over their criminal enterprises like drug manufacturing and use their manufacturing facilities to make the drugs giving them the profits and keeping their government ahead of the drug cartels because their government is the drug cartel. If you look into it the real reason Chinese manufacturing took a huge hit was because it became a lot harder to ship drugs to Europe and America from China. There was a huge crackdown about a decade ago on the Chinese manufacturing centers that were blossoming by manufacturing chemicals for the rest of the world. The Chinese government had to come in and stop pollutants that were poisoning their people that came from things like drug and chemical processing. Once the government started looking in on it the watchdog groups started getting involved and it became very hard to use Chinese facilities to make and ship all sorts of drugs and chemicals. There was a time in the new millennium where getting some chemicals from China through things like Alibaba was as easy as a money order and a Yahoo email address. I am not sure exactly what caused the Chinese government to crack down on all of it so hard, but it is the reason they overshoot their manufacturing centers and now they are becoming ghost towns.

 

It’s a trade off, people die one way or another. Before you quote this link, there are plenty of others association deaths with legalized pot, and that’s just pot. What about opioids? Legalize them?


Exclusive: Traffic fatalities linked to marijuana are up sharply in Colorado. Is legalization to blame?

https://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/25/colorado-marijuana-traffic-fatalities/

 

It likely has a statistical effect of increasing crime but reducing violent crime.

I'm in an area where it's very prevalent and the crime rate is high, but the violent crime rate is low, so it's pretty safe. We had a friend who's unoccupied rental house was burglarized a week before the escrow closed while they were selling it. Everything was taken, even an old-style cast iron bathtub was ripped from the floor. I also saw two old people get run over by a young person who was smoking weed. While the accident was caused by many other factors, the couple might not have been run over if the driver hadn't been under the influence.

 

don't get me wrong, I'm good with legalizing drugs. just don't try blowing rose tinted smoke up my, a former addict's, ass. I know all about the negative side of addiction.

(11 years clean and sober exactly two weeks ago (January 2nd) )

 

lemme see here, lowering drug violence is a good thing even if it means deaths by impaired drivers. Meanwhile, the left is willing to accept murders by illegals as the cost of doing business.

Guys, please don’t tell me you care about human life because all that matters to you is who died, who killed them or how did they die.

 

Let's ban everything that may cause problems. Deal?

 

I remember the federal Marijuana Tax Law.

We were coming across the border and one of our buddies bought a lid of weed in TJ and thought all he had to do was declare the marijuana at the border with customs and pay the federal tax.

The Border Patrol Agent informed him that as soon as he paid the tax San Diego P.D. would arrest him. Marijuana possession was a felony in California back in 1968.

He didn't get arrested but paid a big fine to the feds at the border.

Timothy Leary got sent to the joint (no pun intended) just for a roach about 1/8th of an inch long.

 

No one has ever died of a marijuana overdose.

Tobacco kills about 400,000 Americans each and every year.

Corporations lie to us.