‘We will prosecute’ employers who help immigration sweeps, California AG says

Don't worry too much because there is one Government Agency that can walk in and demand employment records from a business at any time, the IRS.
Say no to them and you're playing with fire.
https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/employment-tax-recordkeeping

 

ICE can too

 

The Constitution enumerates powers and immigration lands squarely in the Federal column. This isn't a states rights issue. The individual states ratified the Constitution at statehood. There is no excuse for attempting to obstruct federal agents enforcing federal law on this issue.

The states can't be compelled to act for the federal government but they cannot openly hinder the federal government in its enforcement of the Constitution and legal statutes derived from it.

Some states here are pushing a bad position and it just might have a bloody end. Openly and actively obstructing federal agents enforcing federal law could be construed as insurrection. Our history is replete with cautionary lessons on rebelion. The Pennsylvania Mutiny of 1783 might be one California et. al. should study.

Cheers

 

More importantly, what if states actively obstruct federal agents in their lawful duties on a wide scale, and Trump federalizes the National Guard to enforce the law and quell the insurgency?

 

As I understand it, Arizona wanted to protect its legal citizens from an invading horde of illegals whereas California wants to protect hordes of illegal aliens from their -- fewer all the time -- legal citizens. There is a difference, yes?

 

That would be a watershed moment.

 

Agreed. I'm not following the Liberal logic here. Why was Arizona wrong but California is right?

 

Then over-turned by the US Supreme Court.

 

If this law passes I hope the Federal Government responds by gutting discretionary funding, grants and all new military contracts be banned from any California business and then make go after the legal pot industry with a vengeance if they want to play this the Feds can have an excuse to do a severe legal response.

 

Yes it would. I'm afraid insurrection is what California is playing with. California is actively organizing the insurgency state wide. All it takes is one kenetic incident connected to, and coordinated by, an organization of rebels within the state governing structure and it's game on.

No government can allow organized open and hostile subversion of its laws and sovereign power by a subordinate governmental entity. It leads to chaos and will spread among other states and cities. What California's elected officials don't seem to understand is that the federal government has to meet insurgency at inception and with overwhelming force.

It can happen, it has happened, and the President has plenary power in this regard to make it happen.

We wage revolutions in this country through the election process, we have a bloodless scrimish every two years and a larger bloodless revolt every four. States follow the same pattern. Our Constitutional system in this republic is intact, let us work on these conflicts within the system through the ballot box then deliberative legislative efforts to effect change toward what we desire. All the while remembering that we may lose a particular election and see our hard faught policies diluted a bit for a few years, All is not lost, keep the energy up, stay involved with local government and local party politics, in a few years power will shift and you'll have another chance to advance policy and new laws.

Beware of the political expedient and don't get so emotionally attached to one policy or program that it blinds us into intransigence and breads anger towards our countrymen with other solutions. Doing so will have us justifying extra judicial actions, by any means necessary, to advance our morally superior policy. We'll see the loyal opposition as a mortal enemies and lesser souls. We'll trike out in unlawful acts.

Immigration is one such policy dispute that has us acting irrationally, we see many in city and state governments closed to the idea of lawful solutions to the immigration issue, no amendment to the Constitution has been advanced, no compromise is evident in the US Congress on immigration. Unwilling to dedicate ourselves to finding solutuins within the current system, these Cities and a few States now seek a new system, one divorced from the Constitution and the rule of law. It's at this point many have become ready willing and able to forcefully defy the rule of law; within their own cities; within their own states; and now their own country. They are threatening to take control of all foreign immigration within their borders and usurp federal power from Congress the Executive as well as the Republic as a whole, in order to facilitate open border immigration, grant visas, work permits and define permanent residency and grant US Citizenship, whIle denying the Republic, Congress and the Executive any authority in the matter. This is the call too arms moment, the watershed event where small city states and one State is dictating a fundamental change in the structure of our Constitution and Republic.

If California continues this march toward mutiny combined with force it's a de facto insurrection and must be quashed.

 

Arizona was wrong because leftist activist judges working FOR Barack Obama said that Arizona was wrong. That's the reality. Trump, however, is not Obama; and he has been packing the court with conservative judges who actually respect the U.S. Constitution; and so we are headed for interesting times where California is concerned.

To answer your question though; the Left is wrong and the Left knows that it is wrong. They are simply hoping that if they hold their breaths long enough and stamp their feet in rage hard enough that the Right will cave and end up giving them this one . . . as so very often the Right (well the RINOs anyway) does end up doing for inexplicable reasons.

 

But ICE can't freeze a company's assets or demand copies of all their financial records without a warrant.

 

The U.S. has been taken hostage by democrat corruption so much in fact that the current leader's hands are tied. Obama worked hard to set this all up during his terms in office. This is not just his work, anyone that's really been paying attention should know by now he's actually working for the Middle East helping to bring America down from within. And he has recently surfaced again to do more damage in the 2018 through 2022 election.


He and the dems are filling SANCTUARY CITIES with illegal future voters knowing once they get back into office, they will never be ousted again and will remain in power FOREVER.


If Trump doesn't get control of that situation by using executive power to arrest those leaders in charge and deport all here illegally, we will be DOOMED!

 

ICE can ask and then call n the IRS if needed

 

That means the illegals in California can have easy entry to neighboring States, with access to all States, and with no further border checks whatsoever. California now becomes a de facto port of entry for illegals entering the United States.

Attorney General Xavier Becerra may be displaying some favoritism towards a particular ethnic group,

 

Seems that way to me.

It also seems that as a result, California has established it's own immigration law, which Arizona proved you can't do.

I'm wondering why the DoJ is not pursuing the same approach Holder did.

Not sure what I am missing.

 

The only reason "illegals" have ever been here was due to the desires and lobbying efforts of the Wall Street/donor/"job creator" class.

But the masses must be kept quibbling amongst themselves and this is a lovely manipulative "issue" to keep them thusly.

 

The DOJ might be assessing the situation now with a confrontation happening very soon. California is not a State where Republicans have done well anyway and, in fact, may get a great deal of support from those who don't like the direction this once wonderful State has taken. Voting Republican next time may be cheaper than moving.

 

This should be fun.

 

I'm leaning in the same direction as you Fred.

I'm retirement age, and I'm fifth generation SoCal. I love it here, but not what it has become. I'm planning my escape before the house of cards does it's unavoidable thing.

IMO it will take at least 3 generations to right the ship, once that righting has begun. The question is, will it ever?

 

Hope I'm not being overly dramatic because I don't live there (though did for a while) but we seem to be watching a modern tragedy gradually unfolding.

 

Yes, true. And worse, at this point, it's unavoidable. The die is cast. I wonder how it will impact the Nation when the inevitable occurs.

 

Sounds more like the illegals have taken over and declared war on American's and embraced the lawless illegals. I never thought in my lifetime I would see the government go against it's own military, it's own children it's own citizens in support of illegal criminals.

 

So has Ca. passed a law where employers can be prosecuted for aiding federal authorities?

 

Yup, I would say so. And I must applaud, finally, their understanding of the importance of States Rights (even if they're doing it in a totally childish, hamfisted manner...)