A Simple Question for Those Are Still Opposed to Same Sex Marriage

Seldom have I seen anyone playing the bad ass exhibit this level of whining.

 

Oh you are so Masterful, you make me swoon !
Giggle, you speak of nads, gonads ? or testicles as if that has any importance as far as reasoning or valor or courage ?
Or does faux cussing add any credibility to your posts ? Do insults make your posts any more valid ?
What and why are you fighting ?

 

I never understand why people think balls is courage. What is the weakest and most vulnerable part of a man? His balls

 

Ladies, ladies! You're both sexy! Now can we get back to the thread topic?

 

You’re not...but ok

 

Never claimed to be. My wives on the other hand would disagree with us both.

 

Then you must be!

 

I periodically come back to this thread to see how things are going. Well I looked back two pages.....not well.

 

because you knowing is of no value to me.

 

A lesbian couple are never well adjusted.

In this scenario, we should start looking at the lax divorce laws that separate families over no justifiable reason. The father should have had to undergo serious counselling prior to getting a divorce as should have the mother. Then, after individual counseling, family counseling and monitoring along with parenting classes should have been required before the divorce.

You should think about someone's future before bringing them into this world. Therefore, marriage should require both premarital counseling AND counseling and parenting classes before a divorce action can be granted.

Selfish parents of our generation cannot fathom what goes on with children when the family splits apart. Then, to be thrown into a homosexual household furthers the confusion. The odds are that many of those children will then become homosexual.

You can claim it's normal, but when you look at how many people are really NOT happy in the younger generation, the claim has a hollow ring to it. Today's generation is the first that will be less affluent than their parent's generation; have a shorter lifespan than their parent's generation; more likely to die from disease than their parent's generation.

 

why do you want government to have so much control over consenting adults lives? That's pretty fascist.

 

The best interests of Brandon and Britany are served if I and others understand it is none of our business.

 

Yeah, clearly we want the govt directing all of that as if that would ever do anything about the reality that today's generation is the first that will be less affluent than their parent's generation; have a shorter lifespan than their parent's generation; more likely to die from disease than their parent's generation. Distractions are always good for the power structure.

 

Most studies show gay parents do just as well as straight parents so this appears to be wrought out of thin air.

Nonsense, people don't take on the orientation of their parents. Most gay kids have straight parents so that obviously didn't work for them?

Most of the people I meet in the younger generation seem quite happy. They may be much more apprehensive about the future than I was (I'm in my 50's): jobs, security etc. are bigger concerns for them than they were for me.

That's the fault of politics and the economy not lesbians raising kids.

Poor diet, lack of access to affordable health-care etc., play a role in this, plus that's kind of US-centric and not necessarily the case in other developed democracies. UK and Japan lifespan continue to rise, US is tailing off. Heavy prescription narcotic use may also play a role.

Again, US-centric.

 

Lesbian couples are never well adjusted?? And I bet you don’t think you have a prejudice bone in your body

 

I don't want the government to have ANY control over what consenting adults do. You simply do not understand the law.

A marriage is defined in law as a union between one man and one woman. The fact that people apply for a marriage license precludes any argument that marriage is not a Right, but rather permission granted by a government. As such, it is subject to limitations.

 

And yet the argument here is about same sex marriage - an institution that exists by permission from the government.

 

My answers are in red.

 

Prejudice is when you develop an opinion without thought, knowledge, or reason.

Since you criticized me without asking a single question before attacking, you don't have a clue where I stand. Prejudice? If you were honest (as opposed to playing the part of a political hack), you'd understand that comment fits you better than me.

 

Lesbian couples are never well adjusted.???Not only is it prejudicial it is downright bigoted. I don’t need a clue of where you stand because anyone who could make such a despicable’s statement is quite clear in where he stands. What would you think if someone said black couples are never well-adjusted. I net you would think they are prejudiced

 

I agree, if you said some Lesbian couples are not "well adjusted" and that could mean anything, as it is a subjective statement and not an objective statement, that is well defined and provable.

Many heterosexual couples are not "well adjusted" and their differences cause them to divorce on the grounds of irreconcilable differences.

Bias against people, Bigotry, sets some on a Witch hunt and they twist truth, and tell lies, pronite stereotypes, in order to justify and promote bigotry against those people they already hate.

 

All legal marriages exist not by permission of but of recognition by the government.

 

On these boards we play a lot of Internet games and NO TERMINOLOGY is adequate for those who are extremist on one side or another of an issue.

IF the gay community were well adjusted, they would understand that marriage (the subject of the OP here) is controlled by the government. You're asking their permission. It is inconsistent to argue for a Right if you are seeking permission. Secondly, since homosexuals cannot procreate, they have NO RIGHT to be accepted into any community automatically.

I say that because as soon as they believe they are the "equals" of the rest of society, they make unreasonable demands. For example, they think they have an automatic Right to become teachers. Since they cannot procreate, it is my position that WHO a parent chooses to allow to teach their children is the parent's Right... not someone who practices a sexual choice that is inconsistent with what a majority of the parents want.

Marriage is legally defined as a union between one man and one woman. Homosexuals, etc. don't get to change the meanings of words just because they don't like them. Who they climb into the sack with is clearly their business. But, society owes them nothing. If the government denies them permission, then clearly they never had the Right. If they had the Right, they wouldn't be asking permission and then demanding we give them something just because they demand it. Only people who are not well adjusted argue otherwise.

 

Agreed. I've seen gay marriages well before they were recognized by law. There are 1138 federal laws and benefits to marriage. It's a 14th Amendment issue which can be fix by either recognizing gay marriage or eliminating those federal laws and benefits....something I strongly doubt straight couples would agree to see eliminated.

 

I agree, any woman who has gone through menopause should not be able to marry. And any couple who decides they don’t want children should be denied a marriage license. Any man who has had a vasectomy should be denied a marriage license. Only people who plan to have children should be allowed to marry. And anyone who has in vitro fertilization should have their marriage annulled immediately (sarcasm alert) oh wait, lesbians can have in vitro
To some of your points… Marriage is now legally defined as a marriage between two consenting adults and yes we do change the words to include them. The same way we added that women were allowed to vote. Yes there were people who objected to that and said they don’t have any right to change the meaning of the Constitution. We evolve.
I am trying to figure out why a teacher has to be able to procreate to be qualified for the classroom.That makes absolutely no sense to me and I’m sure you can explain that. What business is it of parents to know what any teacher does in bed? Is that what you think of teachers?Do you think how anyone makes love should be part of the application?
Not only do you object of them being treated as equals you want them to be denied equality.
You are saying that because they want equality you are concluding that they are not well-adjusted You keep saying over and over that they not well-adjusted, but it sounds like you are the one who is having the issues not them. You want to deny them the same rights that you have. And then you accuse me of calling you prejudiced because I don’t ask questions. I don’t have to ask questions you make it quite clear