House Democrat Schiff says memo sets stage for firing of special counsel

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  1. One Mind

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    You don't care? lol Read your own history of posts on this subject. Then consider what your democrats have done to this nation. Much worse than anything trump has done.

    I told you guys from day one this was a ruse. And when the truth is revealed, once again the genetically superior intellects will once again be proven to be superior intellects. Throwing blind partisanship into the trash is the first move to cleaning up these blinded partisan brains. I did it in the 90s when clinton sold out working americans. I do not suggest you join the Gop for I never did. But if you are a serious democrat you will help to form a 3rd party to take the place of the DP and once again become a party of the average american. Kick these treasonous dems to the curb. This might force the DP back into what it once was. And then we can fight the good fight. With honesty and integrity. It has to start somewhere. But, with you and others here I will not hold my breath.
     
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    I suspect it will turn out that Schiff is lying.
     
  3. icehole3

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    They're saying the Schiff has to follow the same rules as Nunes did, nobody is stopping Schiff from getting his side out.
     
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    Translation, I don't want to look at anything that's against my opinion.
     
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    Show me the Nunes memo so I can question it.
     
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    I knew the Left wasn't going to like living under the rules they created!

    What Do You Think The Odds Are That Democrats Will Sue to Prevent #ReleaseTheMemo?
    Given the radical lawless partisanship of some federal judges, I'd say the odds that a liberal Hawaiian Judge, screams "Aloha Akbar!" and issues an injunction is about 90%.
     
  7. icehole3

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    If the FBI and the left cry foul all the FBI has to do is give Congress the real hard data un-redacted data and prove the Trump administration wrong. I gave Derideo just a small piece of data that was leaked out and he didn't even want to read that, so none of the left want to really have any real data come out.
     
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    Congress has the power and the authority to communicate to the American People. That these clowns at the FBI think they can prevent that, just shows how deluded they are.

    Suddenly the agencies that were out to get him want Trump to protect them and maybe even keep them from going to jail.

    The Intelligence agencies’ pressures on President Trump to block the House of Representatives’ decision to release a summary of the FBI’s highly classified misdeeds are instructive comedy. The House’s decision shows what no one should ever have doubted: the FBI, CIA, etc. are not the source of authority over America’s secrets. They merely administer secrets and clearances on behalf of the one and only authority over the Executive Branch: The President of the United States. He clears them — not the other way around. Congress, as a co-equal, popularly elected branch of government, may hold or release such information as it chooses, and pay such attention as it chooses to the President’s opinions.

    The Intelligence Agencies have been pretending that they are in charge of such matters. They have tried that with other presidents — slow-rolling clearances for appointees they don’t like and threatening them with security violations (the Valerie Plame Case investigation that CIA and the New York Times instigated well-nigh paralyzed the G.W. Bush White House). Usually they have had little success. Barack Obama, for example, simply rejected the FBI’s non-clearance of key appointments, and made them personally, instantly. But Trump, by and large, has let them get away with it, bowing to the Agencies’ objections to his nominees — even refusing to prosecute high officials who have disclosed the sources and methods of communications intelligence to the press.

    The FBI’s top leadership — whose careers, business dealings, politics, marriages and extramarital affairs intertwine — invested itself incompetently and illegally into the 2016 election campaign against Donald Trump. In part to cover itself, it launched the so-called “Russia probe.” Its members are personally, deeply interested in keeping the public from seeing the documents concerning these activities. They raised the familiar shield: release would compromise the sources and methods of national security.

    The House of Representatives’ Republican majority wanted the documents made public, issued a subpoena for them, and was prepared to jail senior FBI for contempt had they not complied with it. The House compromised, being satisfied by viewing them and making a summary, which it has voted to make public. The FBI and the Justice Department’s bureaucracy, being out of options for saving their reputations, their pensions, and perhaps for keeping themselves out of jail, urge President Trump to advise the House to guard the secrecy of the summary, of the activities that it describes, and hence to save their bacon.

    https://spectator.org/intelligence-recognizes-presidential-authority-a-case-of-too-little-too-late/
     
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    15 months of planting knives between his shoulder blades and now they are begging for a special favor from "their buddy"!

    The Democratic Party pretends to care so much about national security, to have such faith in the FBI’s stewardship of it, and such diffidence of the American people’s capacity to judge such matters, that its leading spokesmen have joined the agencies’ demand on Trump.

    This is as rich constitutionally as it is politically. The SPY

    Agencies, having told the country and President Trump for a year that they are the arbiters of secrecy, scurry to get back under the presidency’s protective power by asserting that this power extends over Congress as well.

    Sorry, fellas, it does not. No president can tell Congress what to tell or not to tell the American people, or not to subpoena your documents, or not to put you in jail if you don’t comply. Maybe if you had not slapped your lawful boss around with your pretense of “independence,” if you had come to him confessing your sins and humbly asking his indulgence, you might not be in this fix. Now you are asking for a “get out of jail” card, which he probably can’t give you even if he wanted to.

    The reason is political. Despite your, the Democratic Party’s, and the media’s dogged efforts to deep-six the facts concerning your misdeeds, nothing is going to put these black cats back into the proverbial bag. They are coming to light through the whistle-blowers among you, working with journalists on the media’s periphery, and with substantial Republican elements. At this point, the more you protest “National Security,” the fewer people believe you and the more you anger.

    Your best hope is to retire and resign, hoping that your soft-hearted opponents might be satisfied with non-punitive housecleaning. The chief of the FBI’s national security division did that as soon as NSA sounded the alarm over the not-so-incidental interception of Trump campaign officials’ communications. Bruce Ohr was demoted, “Andy” McCabe functionally retired. What will the people involved in asking for certain FISA warrants do? When will they do it?

    https://spectator.org/intelligence-recognizes-presidential-authority-a-case-of-too-little-too-late/
     
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    The special counsel is not going to be fired.
     
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    I wish you and your side were as determined to make our country safe and prosperous as you are determined to take Trump down.
     
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    The FBI has stated the memo is accurate. They just feel some things have been left out that could perhaps partially mollify their guilt.
     
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    Memo released back to the House for publication.
     
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    What falsehoods?
     
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    The memo is obstructing injustice.
     
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    The propaganda outlets of the super rich, the MSM and press, continue to headline stories of events that have not happened and never happened. For example, the headline of the local newspaper was "TRUMP WANTED TO FIRE MUELLER."
    Did Trump fire Mueller? No. Did the "source" say Trump wanted to fire Mueller yesterday? No, it alleges months ago last year. So the headlight SHOULD have been "TRUMP DID NOT FIRE MUELLER LAST YEAR."

    That is how absurd the corporate propaganda machinery has become. They not only do not cover substantive news stories. They now rant about things that have never happened - furious that it has not because they can't attack Trump over it.

    This also is a non-story. Has Trump said he is going to fire Mueller. No, he said he is not going to fire Mueller. That does not stop the MSM for months ranting about what would happen if Trump did what he has not done and said he is not going to do. The MSM truly is a circus act totally detached from truth and reality.
     
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    Andrew McCabe confirmed that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information.
     
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    The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications.
     
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    DOJ official Bruce Ohr met with Steele beginning in the summer of 2016 and relayed to DOJ information about Steele's bias. Steele told Ohr that he, Steele, was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected president and was passionate about him not becoming president.
     
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    So they'll also be releasing the Intel the memo is allegedly based on ? Or will any proof of these claims stay hidden?
     
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    And when he met Steele they were already investigating the campaign lol
     
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    I did no such thing. Read post #77. Then read post #81.

    You are way out of line.
     
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    Beginning of Summer, June. FBI investigation started in July.
     

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