13 Russian nationals indicted for interfering with U.S. elections and political processes

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  1. Chester_Murphy

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    Sorry, not according to Shepard Smith and he's a liberal.
     
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    Re: CIA Fact Books, the CIA is also in the geopolitical business and pay close attention to the weather, droughts, floods that might affect agriculture production or the mining of resources in foreign countries.

    The CIA is in more than just the spying business.

    Knew more than a few who worked for the CIA. I lived about two miles from the CIA west coast HQ's.

    The building says West Coast FAA HQ's but only one floor is occupied by the FAA, the CIA occupies the rest of the building.
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    I concur, America is over populated especially California. There's just not enough water for 40 million people in California. So I'm required to keep my showers to a few minutes or be fined or sent to jail.
     
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    Did it occur to anyone else that we have attacked Russia in Syria and Eastern Europe, and now have a suit against them? Is this all coincidence or something else?
     
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    Trump screwed up bad when he sacked Comey because I think Mueller is so much better at this... Trumps worst nightmare. By now we are all aware of the IRA and Russians posing as Americans (identity theft) I am curious though to see what else he has... but I'm just going to have to wait, he's keeping his cards very close to his chest.

    The country that benefited most from Trumps election is not Russia but Israel, although it would have been Russia were it not for congress implementing more sanctions and the investigation casting a spotlight.. Flynn's sacking etc.

    The Israeli's though scored big time, they did donate to Trump's campaign and seized the moment by manipulating America into several moves in the middle east. The biggest winner so far in Trumps elections are Israel
     
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    The Democrats remain convinced it must be Donald Trump's continued colluding, that he is Vlad Putin's puppet.. Facts say otherwise but facts are never as important as their frequently bogus beliefs.
     
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    Wait a sec ... Trump said the Russia thing was a hoax! All the Trump backers here said the Russia thing was a hoax! You mean they were all lying? And that's why they're spinning so hard and trying to change the topic? Imagine that.

    Trump backers, if you possessed any sort of conscience or any sort of loyalty to the USA, you'd be apologizing to the board and to America for the months you spent running cover for Russian crimes. Then you'd reject the party that worked so hard to cover for the Russian crimes. But you won't. After all, you're not sorry about helping Russia work against the USA. By helping Russia and hurting the USA, you helped the Republican party, and good PartyMembers always place TheParty before country. You're only sorry you got caught.
     
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    So we now know the Russians did try to interfere in the election and that Hillary did as well and she colluded with Russians.
     
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    I will say that this is a start.
     
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    In fact it is understood that Russians had been involving themselves in foreign elections for at least a century and none of it comes as a surprise. The question is why they are going after Donald Trump and his campaign when there is nothing which involves him. Rather it involves Hillary Clinton, her cronies, the DNC, and many inside the federal Government in DC.
     
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    Over population isn't just an America problem but an international world problem especially like in India and China.

    I was around when America's population was just over 150 million and remember when California's population was 10 million.

    Capping America's population at 170 million wasn't a secret but widely talked about until the 1960's

    Congress agreed but never made it law.

    I remember growing up when America's population was approaching 170 million during the mid 1950's and the federal government would run commercials on television and radio telling Americans stop having so many babies. Most whites did.

    Legal immigration into America was kept to around 200,000 per year during the 1950's and early 60's. Illegal aliens were rounded up and deported during "Operation Wetback" under the Eisenhower administration.

    The Immigration Act of 1965 was based upon lies and gave America the rope to hang itself with.
     
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    They only indicted Russians, and yet you say that's going after the Trump campaign. Telling.

    Law enforcement isn't paying any attention to such senseless conspiracy babbling. They're going after actual criminals, not the political opponents that you want banished to TheGulag after a show trial. That's not because of a vast secret deep state plot. It's because there's never been any evidence to support your bizarre stories.

    Your conspiracy theory is basically:

    A. Investigators talked to some Russians to investigate Republican-Russian ties.
    B. Therefore, the Republicans are innocent, and those investigating them are the ones who are really tied to Russia.

    It makes no sense it all. It's like claiming that police who talk to shady people to solve a case are the guilty ones, because they're out to oppress the poor innocent criminals.
     
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    Comey says there are also some have stolen IDs and pose as Australian.
     
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    If illegal aliens from Mexico and Latin America can steal Americans ID's and not be prosecuted why not Russians ???
     
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    The magic word: "alleged". Keeps the law suits away.

    Russia gave a warning last week that Washington was chasing after its citizens in foreign countries and to come home. Our government's becoming a real embarrassment to us. I guess that's how you must feel about Erdogan?
     
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    Isn't Comey facing jail?
     
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    Seems like Washington is getting mad at Russia for cracking down on American interference in their elections, so they have to retaliate by accusing ordinary Russian citizens. Wasn't it the late Robert Parry who was told by an Intelligence Agent, that all Washington has is its propaganda.

    96 countries have banned, or are not allowing American NGO's to work at full capacity because of interference in their elections.
     
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    Telling? What does it tell you? Are you unaware of the Mueller investigation?
    What "actual criminals"? Thirteen unnamed Russians who "illegally" used social media? Who organized pro Trump and anti Trump rallies on the same day in New York? How difficult woould it be to arrest those Americans who participated in these Russianrallies?
    Read the post and try to understand it before responding.

    These distractions only demonstrate the disdain people like Rosenstein have for the Americans who will fall for this sort of thing. A years investigation and 13 unnamed Russians held rallies or posted on Youtube? How will they prevent this from happening again?
     
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    The russians are guilty of what?

    Posting their opinions on FaceBook?

    Hum
     
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    And it takes the assistant director of the DOJ to announce this 'nothing burger'? Why not Mueller or a member of his staff? This is a crude attempt at distraction from what's really going on.
     
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    Lionel, an attorney who has a podcast broke it down and there does not seem to be any there, there. ha ha.



    I think he made it simple enough for anyone to understand. Mueller is grasping for straws now, when it comes to russians and our election.

    I also found out that they supported sanders over hillary too, and didn't say anything bad about him, on social media. So, these 13 russians against the rest of hillary's supporters were able to elect trump!! By voicing an opinion of hillary on social media which 40 odd million of americans already had, I guess they brainwashed all 40 odd million into believing them, which favored trump over hillary. If that sounds absurd, then you must not be a faux liberal democrat nor a talking head in MSM.

    If this his how the russians create discord(as if we were not already divided and in discord) they need to go back to propaganda school. All that I see is desperation, hysterical in nature, with this russian fear mongering. One would have thought if russia was gonna try hard to elect anyone but hillary they would have made much more of an effort. Agreeing with 10s of millions of americans when it came to hillary does not seem the best way to spin an election. For they could never take any credit for it. Well, even the deputy AG didn't give them any credit for affecting the election. For even he saw the absurdity of it. ha ha.
     
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    It sounds pretty weak
     
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    Violations of election laws aren't acts of war. We have also expended money to influence foreign elections. Probably more effectively than these Russian Internet bots.
     
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    Violations of election laws are what Americans are charged with. Foreign enemies such as Russians are indeed guilty of acts of war.
     

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