Florida shooting: Parkland school student calls Donald Trump a 'piece of s***' over tweet

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  1. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Incidents like this are INCREDIBLY rare, crime is WAY down, and children are safer than EVER.

    Tragedies will occur.

    Why do the laws need to change?
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Yup.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    INCREDIBLY rare.

    What's your plan?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think he killed only white people. Would that be correct?
     
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    Cruz?

    Mostly?
     
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    I think this is probably a good part of the answer--more guns, more dead people.

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    Cruz might have been deterred if the school had done its job in the first place. Then there were the social agencies dealing with a troubled orphan.
    You won't stop everyone.
    Real Christian values are one thing, but I'm not impressed when I see President Bone Spurs holding forth at a prayer breakfast and people there accepting his profession of faith at face value.
     
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    Illegals are not killing people at any significant rate. There is no correlation to the mass murders by American white males and violent crime by illegals. The only reason you bring it up is your racism and bigotry.
     
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    I don't think so. We already issue gun permits. I'm just talking about a smart permit system where we can access the government database with an inexpensive reader.
    Retrofitting schools would be very expensive. New schools should be designed with security in mind.
     
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    If you support Trump you already support an ill-informed, foul-mouthed embarrassment president, so what's the problem?
     
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    where does it say that.
     
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    Haha and there you have it folks.

    When confronted with the reality that the leftist concern over murder hinges only upon the ability to frame the discussion with a slant against the right the leftist reverts back to default programming aka crying "racist".

    Do you realize what you did, or rather what I just made you do?

    You rationalized murder by effectively saying it doesn't matter as much unless the killer is an "American White male".

    This is why lefties have no business dictating morality.

    Because your bigotry is something we can all actually see whereas the baseless claims you make about others being bigoted are just that ...baseless claims.
     
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    BS! Provide statistical evidence that illegals are killing Americans to any significant extent. White male mass shooters are.
     
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    No not BS you rationalized murder by effectively saying it doesn't matter as much unless the killer is an "American White male".

    We can all see your posts btw these aren't private messages.

    And in a way you're still doing it with your absurd question posed as if it was something anybody but you was even talking about.

    How many murders does it take for a leftist to care?

    How come the lives of White kids from the suburb matter more to you than poor minorities from the hood?
     
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    The FBI was tipped off to this guy, the police were called over 30 times, and those who knew him called him crazy, yet he was never interviewed. They did interview the tipster however, and they saw the shooter's notes on the internet saying he wanted to murder students.

    If the police and the FBI refuse to act what are politicians and the public expected to do? They have abdicated their responsibility more than once and need a real shake-up..

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/16/florida-shooting-fbi-nikolas-cruz
     
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    What would you have them do?
    For every one tip that ends up being something there's a thousand other tips that don't end up resulting in anything.

    If you wanted to grab every kid that joked about going to commit a school shooting in a casual Facebook post or tweet you'd have tens of thousands of kids.

    Even if you criminalized that (completely totalitarian in my view) and made everyone in society aware that wasn't acceptable, that probably still wouldn't do any good. Think about it.
     
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    What is your idea of 'significant extent', and how many deaths caused by illegal aliens are acceptable before concerns are raised? Any ideas?
     
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    In other words, she wants a government solution.
    There seems to be an unsaid presumption here that government can and should be relied upon to fix any problem. But of course in reality it depends on the particular case.

    Ironically her solution ends up requiring men with guns.
    I wonder if she has a solution that wouldn't result in another Waco.
     
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    ~Absolute total BS. I did no such thing.

    OMG this is ironic: "How many murders does it take for a leftist to care?"

    Indeed? How many murders of school children does it take for a gun nut to care?
     
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    you sort of did
     
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    Lots of government control could theoretically stop it. But then you'd have a country that would look a lot like North Korea.
     
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    If you want to save victims like that you're probably going to have to put a lot of otherwise-innocent people in prison.

    I wonder, if we statistically analyzed it, would the trade-off actually be worth it?
    1 life = 76 years vs. 1000 lives times a 5 year prison sentence = 5000 years combined (might look something like that)
     
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    Typical Trumpbot reaction. Who cares what she said...all that matters to you (it seems) is that she talks to the POTUS with respect?

    What nonsense.

    Respect is earned, not given away. I bet if I looked at previous posts of you and other Trumpbots about Obama, they would be FAR less than respectful.

    If that is true (and I bet it is), then you are a hypocrite...demanding others talk about the POTUS respectfully and then turning around and not doing the same yourself.


    Now for my two cents...POTUS Trump is ****ing piece of ****. A worthless scumbag, sexual assaulting, lying shack of ****. A ****ing ******* with near zero redeeming qualities the worthless fat, senile dickhead.

    That was for you and your hypocritical attitude towards what the girl said.


    Have a wonderful day.
     
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    Then it's your self-serving interpretation of what I said.
     
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    Absolute nonsense. Look around the world. Many, many countries have strict gun control and are nothing at all like North Korea.
     
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