13 Russian nationals indicted for interfering with U.S. elections and political processes

He told you that? I didn’t realize you knew mueller well.Why don’t we just wait and see. I hope you’re not one of those who wants the investigation stopped

 

A shock? No, of course not. Lol. Nor am I shocked that you now confirm you don't have any proof. Nor does the FBI. It's all media spin, hype and make believe. They're not working on it either.

Like many others on this forum, you're far too personally invested in US cold war rhetoric to even know the difference between evidence and propaganda anymore. This latest FBI episode is as clear a definition of propaganda as you can get. This is abundantly clear from the very obvious fact that not one of the 13 Russians are going to be extradited to stand trial in the US. Consequently no damning evidence / proof will ever be needed to be made available. Check out Plus Ultra's post 199 above.

It's just more smoke and mirrors you're buying into. The FBI loves you for it, too. Uncritical chumps are what they rely on to spread this nonsense in order to keep the cold war machine running smoothly and effortlessly in line with stated US foreign policy.

So, put your glass of milk down, set your chocolate cookies to one side, press pause on the Disney Channel you're watching and take the time to read the following HERE, HERE & HERE.

 

Of course I have no proof....but the FBI does
The fact that you say it is media spin when they have proof speaks volumes about your devotion to the slime.
I find people like you plain scary. The fact that you think this is propaganda and that Russia wasn’t involved shows how easily you are manipulated. What makes you say that all these things that they can prove are false?Oh wait I know the answer. It is a conspiracy. I think it is conspiracy number 2864. The FBI right now is meeting in the secret Cabal.
I’m sure you believe that the porn star and the other one didn’t really have sex with him while his wife was home with their newborn. It’s all propaganda. Oh and I am sure you think his crowds at his inauguration was the biggest ever and I am sure you are not bright enough to realize he’s lying when he says he’s giving the largest tax cut ever. He needs people like you desperately. I could just imagine if something like this came out about Obama. Look how hysterical you got when Trump said he had proof that he was from Kenya. You believed that even though it was not a shred of proof and felt was just lying to lure people like youHere is something so serious and you don’t want it investigated. No one not even Republicans are denying the findings of the FBI. Only the ones that Trump knew he could count on. His words, “I love the uneducated....They would vote for me if I shot someone on fifth Avenue”his words, not mine

 

This entire affair reminds me of lyrics from a song by The Kinks "Destroyer"

 

The real issue is not Trump, unless you believe he is a sleeper commie ignoring Russia is not anymore. It is that Russia is trying to disrupt the US political process and Americans don't care/ They are too buy hating each other. We will not survive as a nation that way.

 

I call that DIRTY POLITICS. As dirty as you like it, not you necessarily, but those who like dirty political games. Seriously, this nation is not going to last much longer if the political system is not cleaned from top to bottom, bottom to top.

 

Micheal Parenti (I know Leftwinger) wrote a book years ago titled "the Make Believe Media" He explains inn the book who media uses coercion, emotionalism, sentimentality, fear, etc. to coerce the public to think in a certain manner about various topic and issues. As I have said before, I have made myself aware of the machinations of media, politicians, self-appointed leaders and the gamut. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on ME.

 

Yeah right, where have I heard that before?

 

no you are wrong... The divide between Americans are not nearly as big as the Russian trolls would like you to believe...

 

Then you certainly should be concerned about what Russia did. They used the media they organized fake rallit’s.
The media also delivers information. Remember Nixon? Remember Clinton?

 

It’s getting bigger everyday...

 

I don't know R.. I think it seems worse on here and social media...the echo effect that come from the Russian Trolls.
Trump do not represent the majority of Americans, most Americans hate him. The minority who do support him, I believe compare with other countries who have their own pockets of right wingers and extremists.

 

I can't understand this. Thirteen Russian nationals were arrested for what? From what I gathered, they were supporting different sides, which is the same thing as we are doing in Syria. The only difference is that with the Russians no lives were lost, and yet with us there are; whether we're attacking ISIS or reversing it and attacking the Syrian army.

 

It's hard to believe 13 Russians impersonating US citizens could sway an election, Rosenstein acknowledged there is no claim they did in Mueller's indictment, some of the emerging details suggest this may be overblown.

 

I'm English, so have no loyalty to The Donald. What I perceive from here (this madhouse called the United Kingdom!) is that for a variety of reasons he isn't wanted, and if an incumbent president isn't wanted, it isn't easy to get rid of him - unless all kinds of factions (including the political elite, and the government agencies, which includes the FBI??) join forces in order to achieve it? And as for your assertion quote There is no question now that Russia interfered with our election and they are at war with us cyberly. unquote. So far as I know, there has been no recent nor historical proof of it, so you're obviously buying into the official narrative contrived by those government bodies mentioned above without knowing the whole truth. Oh, and Russia isn't at war with you, cyberly or otherwise, radical Islam is. And one last thing - Trump didn't grab anyone's fanny!!

 

Keep hugging that belief system, Renee. Let it become your life raft in the turbulent ocean of life. Keep swallowing the blue pill to feel comfy and secure. Keep repeating the mantra "the FBI knows best, the FBI knows best..." Etc, etc, etc.

 

Since becoming a member of this forum (last December) I had no real understanding of how so many Americans have become so obtuse about their ignorance. I can think of no other nationality that is quite so comfortable in their stupidity - although there must be others if you think about it. It's a big change, at least since I worked there in the late 1970's early 1980's. And, therefore, really mind-numbing that such a major thing can happen in just a few decades.

Now I understand why you use this emoji so often:

 

Little of. Apparently Russian hackers made the design of American sports suits for the Olympics. Obviously, Russian hackers decided to make the world laugh with American sports suits.

 

I've studied this at some length in my own small way, and have concluded it's the 'celebrity mentality' at work. They're mindlessly in awe of anyone they perceive as being 'important', or an 'expert/scientist' as being anything less than highly intelligent despite manifest and tangible evidence to the contrary; they point blank refuse to believe that they might be charlatans, have a self-serving agenda, or that they can be fallible in some way or other, when the reverse is often the case. A kind of irrational need to believe flawed or spurious 'facts', and to be servile to the very fraudsters who are trying to fool them? Oh, and typically they like to vocalise a lot, too, and the louder the better!

 

It's just sad we should put up with this sort of trash jokes every once in a while because Yandex doesn't come with a "funny" button.

 

Serious should we be...

 

Well, the Steele Dossier claims are pure Russian propaganda, disseminated in the US media in the months before the election with the aid of the FBI and liberal media. Red something that they want to avoid like the plague.

 

I think the 2 months before the election filled with media reports from the Dossier of Russian Propaganda probably cost Donald the popular vote. But your probably right about the Russian Facebook and twitter stories. I didn't even hear of them until after the election

 

Facebook's vice president for advertising saw all the ads purchased by these 13 Russians and the 3 Russian entities, he reviewed them with other advertising executives at the company and came to the conclusion most were disseminated after the election, few could be interpreted as having any political meaning and that together they are not likely to have had any impact.

Other sources describe the Russian effort as "click-bait" marketing, an effort to secure followers on social media, to gain "likes", postings were aimed at eliciting support for a variety of things, some posted to promote Muslim immigration, others to oppose it, there were texts in support of Texan secession and for the Wall, they were active in social media on whatever was found to animate online users. Their aim appears to have been to secure advertising revenue by gaining followers on social media.

 

Looks like they were trying to make money. Capitalism. It is such a shame we cannot call them scumbag communists, ain't it?

Too bad the indictments are little more than theater and window dressing for Mueller and the trump haters, although there is little there to hang your hat on, if you are still believing russia actually had an effect upon trump's win.

Even the DNC emails that wilkileaks published did not affect hillary supporters. They could not care less if the dnc operated like a banana republic and lied through their teeth about it until Brazille busted them out. And that she feared for her life says all that needs to be said about the people she covered for and lied for in 2016. If this did not hurt the democrats, nothing ever will. And it isn't like wilkileaks lied, they just published emails, showing what we have in the DNC. Hillary voters could not have cared less!! Which says much about them, IMO. And many of them post on this forum. lol And continue the same propaganda and are shameless in doing it. I do not think all democrats are in this ilk, and political forums draw those who don't work, and are so partisan, to a fault. At least I hope all are not of this ilk, for I do not think the truth matters one twit to these kind of people. I don't think they are interested in it. Finding a hillary voter on political forums who exercise objectivity is like that ancient greek using a lamp to find an honest man on the streets of Athens so long ago. BTW, I noticed the same thing coming from the obama haters on another forum which I post on, so I am not being a partisan at all. I think these kind of people hurt america, and is one of the reasons DC no longer represents the People, as evidenced by Princeton. And this bears worth repeating, and reminding people as to what reality actually looks like.