My response was in direct response to those saying Trump is doing nothing! He has done more in his 13 months than the Dems have done in this century!
That silly. A bit like ridiculing a legislator for raising education spending because the teachers unions are the 4th biggest donor in the country, 3 times more so than the NRA. Or... Maybe he just agrees with more spending on education. Maybe Trump just agrees with a ban on bump stocks. Everyone's so quick to apply malicious intent where none necessarily exists.
Trying to derail the thread again? I see you're parroting the Trumpster line. Trump does nothing, and it's Obama's fault.
No malicious intent just using Trump's history as an explanation. Trump ranted and stated his support fir the NRA in his camlaign rallies and he got a lot of money from the NRA during the GOP primaries. He has a right to support the NRA, but he owes them and they know it. Pointbus tgat he has not proposed anything that the NRA opposes. Even arming teachers is an NRA proposal.
That was all after the fact. If the NRA was so against bumb stocks why did they not push for their outlaw before?
Oh the irony. You complain they did nothing yet if they did you'd be screaming bloody murder from the rooftops. Your duplicity and hypocrisy is noted.
Why was nobody against using X-ray machines to size shoes until the dangers of radiation were discovered? Because action typically requires a catalyst. And I would rephrase your question: Why did Obama twice allow bump stocks in the first place? The job was his to forbid them, wouldn't you agree?
Let me think. Maybe I can document a few! Judicial appointments: President Trump shattered an all-time record earlier this month when the Senate confirmed his 12th federal appeals court nominee, marking the only time in history a U.S. president has made more than 11 appellate appointments during his first year in office. Tax reform: largest tax cuts since 1986. Individual mandate repeal: Through tax reform, Trump fulfilled another key campaign promise: repealing Obamacare’s individual mandate. Deregulation: The administration has said Trump ultimately cut 22 regulations for each new one enacted this year, saving taxpayers billions of dollars over the coming years. Cutting government waste: Less than three months into his presidency, Trump issued an executive order directing every federal agency to determine “where money is being wasted [and] how services can be improved.” Though the order never set a desired number for the cuts, several Cabinet-level departments have since found ways to shrink their payroll and consolidate internal programs. Travel ban: “The Constitution and acts of Congress confer on the President broad authority to prevent aliens abroad from entering this country when he deems it in the nation’s interest,” U.S. Solicitor General Noel Francisco had argued in court papers ahead of the decision. Defeating the Islamic State: Trump repeatedly credited his decision to ease restrictions on the rules of engagement with the military’s victory over the Islamic State in key strongholds this year. The terror organization saw its numbers and territorial holdings decimated this year. A U.S-led coalition helped to free Mosul from the Islamic State in July, a victory that denied the extremist group the largest city under their control. In early October, coalition forces notched another victory when 1,000 Islamic State fighters surrendered as Iraqi Security Forces closed in on Hawija, the last of the terror group’s strongholds in Iraq. Recognition of Jerusalem: Despite pressure to preserve a status quo that his predecessors had left untouched for decades in Israel, Trump made waves on the international stage this month when he formally recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and announced plans to move the U.S. embassy there from its present location in Tel Aviv.
Obama? Good grief ... the spin! Derail? Trump advovates gun control, coincidentally not good for Dems. You set the premise by saying it's Trumps "strategy" and not only do I agree, I point out the "strategy" is brilliant. Derail?
Ok. Because action requires a catalyst. Like a few hundred people getting shot up. Where did I hear that before?
5 of the top ten donors in 2016 were unions, teachers groups, or advocates of left wing causes like climate advocacy. Each of these gave at least 3 times what the NRA did. Yet none of these groups are ever subject to the corruption charges. With the possible exception of the unions getting some flak from the right.
The prime, overriding motivation, Soup, is for us to be able to DEFEND ourselves in the roiling, chaotic, increasingly-lawless state you on the Left have had a large part in creating in this country. If you on the radical-fringe Left don't want to be able to defend yourselves, you are welcome to go on being victims... but leave the rest of us who are mentally sound, law-abiding citizens alone! Think: just during my lifetime, we've had presidents as hugely different as Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama. Nobody was storming against the government with guns blazing during the administrations of any of our presidents, so why do you rush to assume that we want to "rise up against the government one day"...?! If we had wanted to overthrow the government, we would have already done it by now.... You think we on the Right are "paranoid"? Go look in the mirror....
How many catalysts would you like? https://www.cnn.com/2013/09/16/us/20-deadliest-mass-shootings-in-u-s-history-fast-facts/index.html
Might it be because there is no corruption involved, and that your response is a non sequiter. The NRA gave more than twice as much money to Trump than it did to any other Presidential candidate in history. You won't be able to change that with deflections.
Even if that is true, almost every election is seeing more money thrown into elections than anytime in history. It's not Trump and it's not the NRA, it's the times on post-Citizens United America.
It is true, and we both know it. As for the fact that more money is being throwwn into elections than anytime in history, the GOP has fought hard to keep it that way. Republcians have opposed every single piece of campaign finance reform legislation offered in my entire lifetime. When the McCain Feingold bill got passed after a ten year fight, the GOP spent the next ten years fighting to undermine it. They fought for unlimited secret campaign contributions, and won, in the Supreme Court. When the Citizen's United ruling was handed down, Obama predicted what would happen. He was 100% right.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/17/news/george-soros-18-billion-open-society-foundations/index.html Soros is "Right wing"?
True because you have facts to prove it or because you say so? Regardless, for the previously mentioned reasons, I fail to see the problem per se.
What a ****ing fudd. Banning bump stocks, or hand cranks or match triggers or binary triggers, would require the underlying definition of machinegun in the statute to be amended. That would require legislative, not executive, action.
Look Tom, this is a boring game of 1up. Trump moves to ban bump stocks and leftists give him **** for it. But he didn't make them legal in the first place. OBAMA DID! So basically, yet again (/cough DACA), Trump is doing exactly what leftist want and they're outraged. And do you know why? Because the DNC and its surrogates want them outraged. This is why Trump is the grandmaster of 4-D chess. He gives the left what they ask for just to see their heads spin as they try to justify why they're still angry.
