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Can demons be given hope?

  1. No... the demons have zero hope!

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  2. Yes..... Elijah must "restore all things"

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  3. I am not sure but I will research this further.

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  1. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    You might be the most positive forum member I've ever seen here, and I honestly greatly admire that. I'm not nearly as positive as I'd hope to be, usually.
    Take care.
     
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    From what I know of Calvinist thought......
    they are almost totally ignorant of the long term plans of the Creator for
    all of us......... My guess would be that they want to be ignorant because it absolves them of
    the power..... and thus the responsibility.... to make decisions and take action that positively alters the future, both for themselves
    as well as for others.

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a06

    https://www.near-death.com/science/research/future.html#a03
    The Future and the Near-Death Experience
    .......
     
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    My dad passed on January 1, 1990......
    by Yom Kippur of that year I was going through a massive theological crisis because since the early 1970's
    I had been taught the Soul Sleep doctrine...... that was solely based on scriptures but..........
    the idea was obviously in error as I studied those NDE accounts......... that perfectly fitted with other scriptures that
    I had been ignoring.....

    I got really, really, really, really, really angry with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus for seeming to settle for
    a plan that has many called, few chosen, a broad way leading to destruction...... and many going in thereat.....
    a narrow way leading to life and few finding it...........
    combine this with an all too real hell or purgatory or Void.... or whatever the negative afterlife realm should be called is.......
    and I could no longer see the plan of G-d as explained in the Bible as being Good News........
    it really seemed like terrible news.......
    unless I was missing something..........

    I began to pray with extreme chutzpah......
    I put in an offer / bid / proposed investment to pay off the debt / guilt of Azazel.......

    ....."but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza'zel shall be presented alive before the LORD
    to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness
    to Aza'zel." (Leviticus 16:10)

    ......

    After that I got answers to every question that was troubling me.........
    in summary.... Messiah Yeshua - Jesus saved the best news for last........
    He did promise that in the future..... he would speak plainly of the Father.........
    and I am certain that the truth of eventual universal salvation was always the plan of G-d for humanity.......
    and for all fallen angels.......
    and for all fallen aliens......
    and for all alien - human hybrids........

    ..... but .... all of us needed to make some mistakes... and feel the consequences of our errors......
    so that we would better understand the awesome power and responsibility that comes along with genuine......
    very real....... freedom of choice.............

    Each of us is like a Reality Film Star... and every moment... of our lives has been recorded.......
    that is true of us in all dimensions of space - time......
    Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan has done an academy award winning job of playing the role of the tempter or......
    authority figure who deceives us into treating others in a disrespectful manner..........
    because actually..... selfishness is a terrible idea........

    pride is a terrible idea......
    and I suspect that Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan.... is actually driving his followers into deeper and deeper levels of
    despair and depression.... until they learn HUMILITY.... and selflessness.............

    the very opposite of what most Satanists perceive their religion to teach.......


    FreedomSeeker.... you Sir.... are a STAR.... in a massive reality film......
    every thought that you have is recorded... this can be a bit scary at first......
    but as we develop true humility.... we will be so happy to know that our most
    stupid errors and mistakes... can eventually be turned into great lessons for others.......
    an infinite number of others.......
    over infinite time in the future.........
    It is an honor to meet you and assist you to take a step or two toward light / truth / love........

    https://www.near-death.com/science/research/life-review.html
     
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  4. DennisTate

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    Here is a paragraph from a near death experience account from the 1700's that is in my opinion.... far more accurate than the ideas of any Calvinist:

    https://www.near-death.com/religion...ury-nde-the-case-of-george-de-benneville.html

    .....

    The Calvinists as you can guess..... kicked him out of their church.......

     
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    Yeah...... I just got told off in no uncertain terms.......
    and I think it is helping me to see some of the many, many errors in my evil ways?!

    Maybe?!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...mpletely-repent.501819/page-4#post-1068595303

    Can Hillary completely repent?



     
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    I only found this man's videos four days ago.........
    but he teaches and speaks at a level of wisdom and understanding that
    can be compared with the Sermon on the Mount or the Gospel of John.......

    ... and frankly even better than that............

    .... Warning... he is Chassidic Jewish......... and is a fulfillment of this promise........ but.... there is no need for him to know the Messiah by the name of Yeshua - Jesus for him to fulfill these words......

    John 14:12

    "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."


     
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    I just got an interesting comment back regarding......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ndp-unity-to-destroy-liberals-in-2019.526258/
    Conservative and NDP unity to destroy Liberals in 2019?



    I replied......

    Tell that to Azazel...........

    ......"but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza'zel shall be presented alive before the LORD

    to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness

    to Aza'zel." (Leviticus 16:10)
     
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    Actually..... I kind of do........

    HaShem / YHWH / The Ancient of Days the FAther is the most emotional Being in the universe / Multiverse........
    In comparison to G-d I am comparable to a zombie.... or vampire or werewolf...... no better than an animalistic predator......
    but I am in a position to at least try to make LIFE better for G-d.....
    much like the old proverb of the mouse... who chews through the ropes that bind the lion.......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...f-elijah-needed.499830/page-6#post-1068729837
     
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    My dad passed on January 1, 1990......
    even the fact that this was New Year's Day by our Gregorian calendar
    I do suspect was not a coincidence.........
    because Jubilee is proclaimed on Yom Kippur......
    making Yom Kippur something of a New Year.......
    at least once every fifty years!

    Two sets of scriptures in the Christian Bible really, really, really, really
    annoyed me...... once I began to read near death experience accounts and
    could no longer continue to believe in the Soul Sleep Theory that
    Evangelist Garner Ted Armstrong had taught me beginning around 1972.

    Matthew 20:16

    "So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen."

    and......

    Matthew 7:13
    ¶Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

    Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

    Around Yom Kippur 1990..... perhaps a few days or weeks afterwards.......
    I formally put forward my own offer to serve HaShem / the G-d of Abraham / YHWH
    as a volunteer Yom Kippur goat...... specifically the "goat for Azazel".....IF.....
    a volunteer goat for Azazel would fit into the plans of HaShem for mankind?

    I really thought this through quite a lot before making my offer......
    because frankly.... I was scared.......

    I tried my best back in 2010 to summarize the whole thing for Orthodox Jewish
    Sanhedrin Rabbi Yeshayahu Hollander because it seemed to me that this whole
    thing surely.... might be significant to him or some other Rabbis:

    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tate4centralnova/my-correspondence-with-rabbi-t383.html#.VsDYdsf8iOw

    Rabbi ........, linking Jerusalem Third Temple with Grand Unified Theory of Modern World Problems.Wednesday, April 14, 2010 1:00 PM
    If... many are called and few are chosen......
    if there is a broad way leading to destruction and the majority seem to end up in there.......
    and.... if the Soul Sleep Theory is incorrect.......
    and there really is some sort of hell / Purgatory / Void.... negative after life environment..........
    then how could the Good News..... of the Christian scriptures......
    get to be much worse news than that???????
     
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    Nice... this is the first time that I heard that song.....

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Friedrich_Nietzsche
    My theory.... is that both G-d..... and the Holy Spirit....
    and Messiah Yeshua / Jesus and the Elohim... the Seven Spirits of G-d.......
    and the 24 Elders.... and the Archangels..... (and the angels who DID NOT
    initiate a revolt against heaven that led to the destruction of the earth making the repair job of Genesis 1 necessary).......

    and Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan.....
    and Abner Paul Azazel Baalzebub......
    and Mary Magdalene Gomer Jezebel LLT (Lilith).....
    are striving against boredom.......

    by exaggerating the conflict..... for the relatively under-informed masses who will
    take the conflict between heaven and hell too seriously.......

    be convinced that their side is almost completely correct.....
    and their opponents are terribly in error or foolish.......

    ..... but.... all of us should be motivate to want to make it into one of the astral realms......
    where one is not forced to work all the time.....
    so that we can get involved in other activities......


    DO SPIRITS HAVE SEX -???- (My Twin Flame Experience)

    The people who get themselves into the mind set of The Void / Purgatory / hell.....
    are too busy fighting or working to enjoy the benefits that are possible in the afterlife realms.....

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/george-ritchie.html#a05d
    My guess would be that if we are too busy fighting or working while alive on earth.....
    we might just continue that habit on into the afterlife realms???
     
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    Your Calvinist friend is seriously playing with fire......
    the people who are convinced that others are in big trouble.........
    are teaching that G-d.... thinks like they do.......
    and condemns others for the reasons that they think to be important,.......

    Matthew 7:1
    ¶Judge not, that ye be not judged.
    For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."

    Your Calvinist friend is probably convinced that because they accepted the Sacrifice of Messiah Jesus / Yeshua on their behalf.....
    and because they got baptized in a certain way and did certain good works.......
    that they are essentially assured of a place in heaven.......
    They could be correct.... but many variations on that thought pattern only get people into the
    lowest levels of heaven... the Outer Darkness of heaven.....
    not the high levels of heaven.........

    For all his many flaws... Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan has set up his followers.....
    in such a way that when they fully repent... as I believe Mr. John Ramirez has done.....
    these former followers of Satan could actually spring board into some of the highest realms of heaven......

    ... such as occupied by Ms. Corrie Ten Boon as reported by Christian near death experiencer
    Bob Jones......

     
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    I just found a good warning today.......


    I NEARLY DIED AGAIN (5th Dimension Ascension Test) Part 1

     
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    @DennisTate , you are way beyond where I thought you were. Preaching that fallen angels who chose to be what they are, but can be reformed, is sadly mistaken and extremely dangerous. They knew what they chose, what would happen and how it would all turn out. They desire what they do and what they chose. Thinking they even would consider anything else is underestimating them in the extreme. It is ludicrous and a gateway to torment, possession and hell for eternity, for anyone who believes that is possible. It's worse for those who attempt to recruit others, because it is doing the evil one's bidding and giving your soul for his pleasure. It is rejection of the one true God.
     
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    Why would G-d inspire Moses to put the name Azazel........
    into Leviticus 10?

    Didn't G-d know that eventually... this would get Azazel into a lot of trouble with former Covering Cherub Lucifer?

    G-d would only put the name Azazel into Leviticus... if there was some sort of huge positive eventual meaning in Yom Kippur that is similar to Passover........ but for metaphorical goats...... not so much lambs and sheep.

    "but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza'zel shall be presented alive before the LORD

    to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness

    to Aza'zel." (Leviticus 16:10)
     
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    I'm sorry, Dennis. I don't know everything. I can't answer you. I hope you awaken before it's too late. Take care.
     
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    I admit that my firm belief in eventual Universal Salvation.....
    can get me into a lot of trouble........

    I admit that my belief in Universal Salvation... might perhaps have been
    taken to an extreme........ but I have been wrestling with this idea for 28 years now.....


    Universal Salvation, is everybody eventually led back to heaven/paradise/love?

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

    Christian Andreason, Chapter 3:
     
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    God, though his son, Jesus Christ, is no longer enforcing Talmudic Law upon Humanity. Thank Christ !

     
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    At least I am not alone.......
    Mr. John Ramirez was given a dream.......
    where Pastor Nicky Cruz meets him and gives him a box of his sermons.......

    John goes to the kitchen to get him a glass of water and comes back and Nicky Cruz is with a Voodoo guy......
    John wonders what the dream can mean.....

    He prays and was shown that he... John Ramirez = Pastor Nicky Cruz and the sermons in the box
    were the sermons that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus would give him......
    for people involved in witchcraft.......

    He has a calling to people in the occult......
    and I think that I have one as well...........




    http://64.71.77.248/fq-protestant/tfq-en.html

     
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    Okay.
     
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    You Sir... have a very low level of fear.......
    (or you would never have replied into this discussion).......
    Generally a low level of fear... corresponds with a relatively high level of love for G-d and for others.......

    I believe that you... Chester_Murphy.... have a surprising number of fans...... not only in heaven.......
    but even in hell.....
    who respect you greatly for your high level of humility..... your general lack of fear........
    and your generally high level of love for G-d and for others..........

    Acts 19:15

    "And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?"

    Mark 1:24

    "Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I knowthee who thou art, the Holy One of God."
     
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    Thanks Dennis. I hope you are well blessed and protected. I don't want to see you harmed, but kept within God's mercy and love.
     
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    I think it might have been 2005 when I read the article that you can view here:

    http://www.harvestwarriors.com/newsletter-archives/

    July 2003, The Invisible War.......

    I decided to do what was advised here about turning a home into a spiritual fortress.........

    I did not tell my gifted Pentecostal wife what I was doing.....
    she was in the shower when I anointed the basement of
    the home we were living in with olive oil that was consecrated to the name of
    Messiah Yeshua - Jesus..........

    She yelled that the house was shaking......... she felt an earthquake as I anointed the windows and doorposts in the basement....

    I felt nothing.........

    My wife is a lot more gifted than me but what she felt indicates that the advice at that link is effective.....
     

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