Diversity in the workplace and troubles it will bring society meeting romantic partners

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A great many people meet romantic partners in the work place. In fact according to one survey of married couples, the most common way people met their future spouse was at their workplace.

    I'd like to quote, for a moment, another member of this forum from another thread:
    And I agree with these comments.

    You know for many people it is hard to find a partner, and if it wasn't for the workplace, they might be single for a very long time, maybe even never found a spouse. (Or they might just get desperate and eventually settle for someone their not as compatible with)

    It sounds kind of funny but a lot of highway patrol officers end up meeting their future wife when they are writing speeding tickets. I even read about a lesbian prison guard who met her partner in a women's correctional facility.

    I wonder, what will be the rate of romantic hookups as these workplaces become more and more diverse?

    I know there are many people here who want to completely deny racial differences make any difference whatsoever in the dating game, but that's not really true. Even many mixed-race couples will admit there are challenges and difficulties that come with the territory. And then like it or not you also have a lot of individuals who say certain races are not their "type". I'm just saying the chances of romantic encounter between two people go down when they're not the same ethnicity.

    This is an issue that has long faced minorities, and why they often move to higher population cities where it will be easier to meet other people who are like them. No doubt it puts them at some degree of sexual disadvantage, because when there's a smaller pool of potential sexual partners, you'll have a genetic bottleneck effect. For those of you who may know nothing about this, this is something conservation biologists are often concerned about, because when a population of endangered species goes down below a certain threshold in an area, the species population can start showing signs of reduced genetic fitness. So they'll often want to bring in members of the species from another area to bring a wider assortment of genes into the local genepool, to help combat that local population from going extinct.
    Here's a little more information about that, if anyone really wanted to read about it: https://bmcevolbiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2148-10-33

    So what I'm saying is that more human diversity may ironically lead to more of a bottleneck effect within each race group that constitutes a minority in the overall population. Some might say the obvious solution is for all the humans in the population to just mix, as if there were no race groups. But that is not without potential problems either, for example there's outbreeding depression (just as too much inbreeding is not a good thing between members that are too closely related to each other, the far opposite of that may not be good either) and speciation (different groups within the same species diverging from each other and adapting through natural selection to specialize in occupying a certain place in the ecology web). I'm not going to discuss too much in this thread because that's a complicated and contentious subject that deserves its own thread devoted to that discussion.

    But back to the original point, what effects are more diversity in the workplace likely to have on the formation of romantic relationships in society? Are there going to be effects that weren't anticipated, and will people even realize these effects are happening?
     
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    Is there an actual point somewhere ?

    Disambiguation requested on Aisle 5 please.


    " But back to the original point, what effects are more diversity in the workplace likely to have on the formation of romantic relationships in society? Are there going to be effects that weren't anticipated, and will people even realize these effects are happening ?"

    No, there are no such effects.
     
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  3. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Even when 75% of your female work colleagues are a different race than you? (For the sake of hypothetical argument, let's say none of them are Asian)
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's just do some basic calculations.

    16% of people meet their partner at work. Another 5% meet their partner through friends they made at work. I bet those numbers are slightly higher for white people but let's just go with that.
    Let's say another 1% met their partner through their work, interacting with other people, like a salesman or highway patrol officer. Then you have another 28% that met in school. That's 50% combining them all.
    Now let's say you are 3 times more likely to marry someone the same race as you than someone who's not. (I don't know, just guessing for the sake of demonstrating a calculation)

    0.75 times 0.5 = 0.375 .. That means it's 37% more difficult to find a girlfriend
     
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    Ok, that is Kooky maths.

    What about the market ?
    Car wash ?
    Or a Church social ? Lots O' Places to meet a prospective mate, places where people specifically go to meet other singles.

    So, a resounding, NO....
     
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    This is why recent migrant groups resorted to chain migration, which allows legal immigrants to apply for relatives abroad to come to the United States, thus inviting families and relatives from their home countries to join them in America. There are over 2 million Korean Americans because of chain migration, who were originally only in tens of thousands in the 1970s.
     
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    It's fine, bro. You will meet her one day.
     
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    Nil, for the colourblind white person. Unless the workplace employs minorities who refuse to assimilate, or who refuse to date whitey.
     
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    I don't share your angst. Interracial marriage has been trending upwards, anyway. Perhaps increasing diversity in the workplace, schools and neighborhoods would accelerate it, which would be a good thing. The number of racists in society would likely decrease as a result of these unions.

     
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    What if the result is turning the US into a dysfunctional multiethnic society like Brazil? Would that still be a good thing?

    Do you only operate in a binary racist vs non-racist worldview?
     
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    US already is - and always was - just as multiracial as Brazil; Europeans, Amerindians and Africans. Only difference is probably that there has been more cross-breeding in Brazil creating triracials and other weird mashups.
     
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    Mashups can be good. The make it impossible to 'identify' as anything other than a nationality.
     
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    I am a mashup myself. I am literally nothing. :D
     
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    No, you are Swedish :)

    Mashing Up makes better patriots.
     
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    Nationaltiwise, yes. Genetically speaking, no.
    Mixture of Finnish and Turkish. I look Balkan-esque though, but it is hard to pinpoint my ethnicity since my traits are ambigious. Most people guess "Yugoslavian" when playing "guess my ethnicity". I belong nowhere. :p

    Depends how you define "better" and "patriot". ;)
     
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    You belong to Sweden. Regardless of your ethnic makeup.

    When I say 'better' I mean first allegiance is to nation, not 'race'. And by 'patriot', I mean someone who values and respects nation.
     
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    Oh, I see and I agree. :)

    I agree with this too. Although there is an overlap with ethnicity, race, culture and nation, it is mostly a matter of culture. If someone perceives their group as culturally different to the neighbour, an ethnicity is created. Cherokees and Nacvajos are of the same race, but they have come to be different ethnicities (tribes) due to perceived cultural differences.

    Obviously, a Somali will find it extremely hard to adapt to, say, Swedish culture and Swedes will find it hard to accept him into their ethno-group. But, if he really assimilates and really takes on Swedish socio-cultural norms and values, he can live in society and be accepted as part of it too.

    This is a very complex issue though.
     
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    I recommend you stick to trying to date only women that meet your strict criteria and ignore all the rest. Also do not date a woman while at work...wait until after you both get off. This may be difficult due to the effect you clearly have upon females but, put your foot down and fight them off.
     
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    That is how it goes in a Dem dream world. Just shop on the internet, you will find someone.
     
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    The US was over 90% white until the 1960s.

    The more racially diverse the US becomes the more a garbage dump the US resembles.
     
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    Perhaps romance in the workplace should be avoided altogether, especially if the romance doesn't pan out and you're forced to share the same building every day.
     
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    That was pure K.K.K. Hate Inspired Propaganda.
     
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    Yeah; they should go back to fantasy.
     
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    it becomes even more difficult when you define people by race...because race is an invented social construct...
     
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    so is gender, they tell us.
     

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