Sex & Love Around the World

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  1. HereWeGoAgain

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    Premieres March 17 at 10 p.m. ET

    CNN's Christiane Amanpour travels the world covering global affairs but hadn't explored the love lives of strangers -- until now. Amanpour gets personal with women she meets in various corners of the globe by inquiring about their intimate lives. In the process, she shines a light on what sex and love look like around the world.

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    https://www.cnn.com/shows/sex-and-love-around-the-world

    This was excellent! Her first show looks at sex and love in Japan. Wow!!! I knew things are getting bad there but it is really bad. 40% of all men are virgins. Masculinity is under siege with men buying sex dolls and pushing robot sex...and acting very strange! Many women no longer want to marry. The thought of sex after marriage is repulsive to many; both women and men. They often show no affection for each other at all. And generally they don't kiss or touch. Apparently a lot of men are happier with porn and sex dolls than real women.

    At the very end, a married couple forces a kiss on the cheek; just on the cheek!!! You can tell it about killed them both!

    I had a sugar baby who exposed me to Anime and Manga [animated porn]. These are huge with girls and young women in Japan. It is some seriously dark and kinky stuff. I was shocked! When girls are cut loose, they can be dirtier than boys, and that's saying something! LOL! One of the more popular forms is animated homosexual boy sex, for girls to watch. I guess turnaround IS fair play. It's no secret that most men like watching two women have sex.

    No doubt about it, sexuality in Japan is going through dramatic changes and taking some very odd turns and twists. I remember a conversation I had with an escort who lived near a large airport. She said a lot of women won't see Japanese businessmen. They had a reputation for asking for really kinky and strange stuff. And porn and sexual attractions for men in Japan often involve women dressed as little girls. I've noticed this a few time with Japanese porn on sites here, and found it a bit disturbing. Fantasy is one thing but this whimpering little girls thing is a bit scary, even for porn.

    It seems that Japan has a rich history of sexuality that was squelched and even made illegal, when Western influences heavily laden with Victorian morality ruined a perfectly healthy sexual culture.

    PS, I happened to notice that this is thread number 2000, in this forum.
     
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    And who can blame them?
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    Why do you say that?
     
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    I can....but hey, to each their own.
     
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    The majority of women are never satisfied and make it their mission to drive men crazy. They have no compassion. You can do absolutely EVERYTHING for years and the one day you are feeling ill and lying in bed she'll say, "Being ill is just an excuse! You NEVER do anything around here!"
     
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    I understand. I was in one of those marriages as well. In fact I came within a few seconds of blowing my brains out.

    But I have found that the sugar baby relationships can be quite rewarding. I have often called it a perpetual third date. My first sb called it a "no-hair-in-the-sink relationship". It maintains the distance needed to prevent you from driving each other crazy. But also the intimacy needed for a decent life. We need touch and human contact. It is essential.

    In many ways, marriage is bad for men. From what I have read, about 40% of women start to lose their sex drive when they feel secure in a relationship, and even more so once kids come along. It isn't a conscious thing. It is biology. So by doing all the right things, by being loyal and trying to be a good husband, a guy can sabotage his own sex life!!!

    After ten years of marriage, most women have lost or are losing their sex drive. Of course they blame it on the men but it seems to be more a matter of biology. This is the real curse of it all. In many ways, women aren't intentionally ruining our lives. It is biology. And this all points to the same conclusion: For at least half the population, marriage doesn't work. It make us all miserable. But the catch is that we still need each other. This is why I have landed on the sugar relationship.

    They figure I'm safe because I'm too old to marry them. And I get to have a smoking hot girlfriend who is 21 [my current situation].
     
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    PS. just to mess with her [SB Number One], I left hair in the sink one day. :D We had a good laugh over that one.
     
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    For anyone wanting to know the causes of the sexless situation in the Japan, there's a thread about it here: Japan: young not getting married, not in relationship, not having sex
     
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    Familial relationships centered around Love are the cornerstone of human civilization. Building a healthy, safe environment for offspring, or 'settling down' is what sparked the technological and social innovation that led to everything today.

    However, being 'in love' was considered a mental illness throughout human history until quite recently (the last few hundred years). Families were a logical solution to the problems asociated with hunter/gatherer lifestyles, not an emotional solution.

    I think we've lost the concept of the purpose of the family. We embrace the emotional dependence associated with 'falling in love' as a prerequisite instead of an occasional side-effect. We're not supposed to be dependent on others for our contentment.

    The line between having compassion for the prosperity of others (especially ones own 'blood') and having passion focussed on the attention of those others has been blurred. While an enjoyment of such codependent passion is fine when acheived, the expectation of it is not reasonable or healthy.
     
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    So your conclusion is that our happiness has no bearing on the situation. Just make babies and suffer. And the essential human need for touch and intimacy is irrelevant. That sounds like the mentality driving men to have sex with dolls instead of women.

    Also, the last thing the world needs is more babies. At the root of all of our major global resource issues - population migrations, climate change, diminishing water supplies, collapsing ecosystems - is the problem of population. More and more people, now exceeding 7.6 billion, stress our capacity to support the population. There is a limit to what we can sustain, and then things fall apart catastrophically.
     
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    I would remind you that one of the most essential concepts held by the founding fathers was the right to the pursuit of happiness. This is hardly a modern, selfish desire. The right to the pursuit of happiness was the opening salvo in the War of Independence; right after life, and liberty.
     
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    Not that hapiness has no bearing but rather that its source is being incorrectly identified. Happiness most effectively and reliably comes from within an individual, not from other individuals.

    I dont agree with the commonly presumed dynamic of overpopulation being caused by 'overbreeding.' The equation has two general variables: population growth and resource scarcity. Resource scarcity is being artificially inflated with manipulative state policy and corporate monopoly (often working in concert). There are vast untapped planetary resources being hoarded by the financial and political elite. Overpopulation is currently far more of a wealth and right-to-access disparity than it is of population growth.
     
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    Brilliant post. One of the best I've read here .... ever. Thank you!
     
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    Thanks for sharing your experiences with women, we’re all very sorry for you.
     
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    You missed the point ... ENTIRELY.

    Happiness is not supplied by magical pixies with pockets full of shimmering dust, cast to the wind. Only the small child believes that to be so.
     
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    I agree. Why would you think my position requires such a reminder?
     
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    You're apparently talking to infants. You'd think ... given a reasonable span of time in adulthood ... that the above would be blindingly obvious. Apparently not.
     
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    Pffffffffffffffffffffffft, like much of the founders' bullshyte, they hardly gave a phuck about the pursuit of happiness for all.
     
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    What a beautiful response. You've given the subject a lot of thought, I see. Allow me to comment on a couple of points:

    Yes, and this applies not only to sex. There's a mental thing (illogic mostly) that is also affected. But if you are not self-centred and suffering from an inferiority complex yourself, you can forgive her.
    Exactly.
    I've inadvertently found the cure. Being with a young woman certainly does have its advantages but they usually end badly simply because of the age difference ... and all that entails. My wife is 22 years younger than I. It works. Why? Because she is from the east, born in the Communist era and raised in reality rather than the frivolously, Capitalist "I want everything!" mode. (note my earlier comment about women never being satisfied) Neither of us is materialistic or superficial - me, because of my life's experience - and she, because she was raised that way. We don't think about our age difference and we no longer notice if people stare. And no, I didn't "rob the cradle". I met her in the east and our friendship (I thought was no more than that) wasn't enough for her.

    And about sex: I let her initiate it, although she never says "no" when I get the urge. But we are nearly 71 and 49 and we don't think about sex very much anymore. We know what we want and we know how to achieve it. We have a child together and life for us is well-rounded.
     
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    My near suicide, and the associated awaking I experienced when I left my wife the next day, and when I started seeing high-end Escorts, sent me on a bit of a crusade. Firstly, suddenly I saw how men in the US have been brainwashed just like women were, by the feminist movement. Now don't get me wrong. I have always supported equality. But a lot of women my age and older became perpetual victims who blame men for pretty much every problem they have. It is truly impossible to ever make them happy. I started seeing how on TV and the movies and comedy, men are subtly or explicitly demeaned regularly, in ways that would outrage women were the tables turned. I began to see how men have become fundamentally disrespected. There are a lot of women out there who genuinely believe their sex is superior to ours. It took me over 20 years but it finally dawned on me that this was true of my wife and a lot of women her age. It was an epiphany! Once you see it, you see it everywhere. But we have become so accustomed to being disrespected that we don't even notice. They took advantage of our understanding and good faith and turned it against us. It wasn't a conspiracy or anything like that. But it was an evolution in thinking that ended with a bunch of, IMO, intolerable women.

    The younger women haven't been corrupted. They have always felt empowered so they don't need to prove it.

    Why is it worth giving up sex for life? I never bargained for THAT deal when I got married. That should be included in the contract or it amounts to fraud - WARNING: Be on notice that sex ends at the altar!!!.

    I saw to her needs in every way that I could. I put up endless crap from her even if I didn't feel like it. Even if she has no drive, I still have needs. Why don't men's needs count? Why would you surrender your sex life? Maybe now it's not an issue for you. But over the years that followed, I began to understand that the day my sex life ended was the day my life went into permanent decline, where the will to live slowly faded away. Ten years later I was trying to pull the trigger. What stopped me was the thought of sex. Getting laid again was worth hanging on a little longer. And once I did, the will to live slowly returned. In fact in two days I was a new man. I thought I was just hopelessly depressed in a horrible marriage. I didn't even realize how the loss of a sex life was killing me.

    So I think it goes far beyond forgiveness. It is too much to ask. Not only that, my wife started cutting me off on our wedding night. It was all based on a lie about a medical problem that didn't exist. So this wasn't biology. It was deception from day 1.

    Good for you! It is funny how after a time you really don't notice the age. My first sb and I talked about what we had learned the last time she was here. We saw each other for three years. She said first and foremost, it cured her of ageism. After a time, I was a man, not an older man. And it seemed perfectly natural to me to have a gorgeous 21-24 year old in my bed. After a time, you really start to feel like you're 21 again... provided you exercise, eat well, lose the extra weight, etc, etc, etc...

    As for ending badly, I accept that I only get to keep her for awhile. There is always the chance that some gorgeous young lady will want to make the situation permanent. But all in all, I don't want to get in the way of their life. So I try to be a positive influence and help them in ways that contribute to their life, and accept that the day will come to move on.
     
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    Who the **** would be interested in the love lives of strangers ffs? For example, nobody here is interested in your love life (although you seem to be convinced they are? lol)
     
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    I thought you were using suicide as a figure of speech. I didn’t realize you were serious.
    I understand.
    That’s the difference between equality and feminism. Equality means equality. Feminism is the condition of “I want everything without putting in any effort, I will never be satisfied, and every problem in life is the fault of men.” It is a scourge. No one should support Feminism.
    I notice. My wife notices.
    Yes.
    You probably misunderstood me.
    Hormones. Ours and women’s are not the same.
    You’re right, it’s not.
    It does not sound very good. You have a right to take a woman “on the side”.
    I think you have too much value on sex and that there is probably another way to compensate against frustration (particularly one's manhood), BUT …….. it is what it is and I think you’ve solved the problem in the best way you know how.
    Again, you misunderstood me. I said forgive her, her illogic.
    Beauty isn’t very important unless you force yourself to think so. Usually, it isn’t really what you believe yourself, but what you think your friends will think.
     
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    This isn't even just a Japan thing either...

    The fact that there is an emerging market of creepy AI "women" dolls that can actually hold conversations with you and stuff now is sort of saying something...

    Good or bad or whatever, that sort of thing is well....happening.
     
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    Every man should have one of those. It can hold a conversation, right? What's more important is that it has an "ON" & "OFF" switch! You gottta' admit .... don't we wish women could be turned off sometimes?
     
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    Have you never been enslaved?
     

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