Andrew McCabe, a Target of Trump’s F.B.I. Scorn, Is Fired Over Candor Questions

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  1. Talon

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    I'd be thinking about leaving the country and assuming a new identity...:lol:
     
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    She was not a civilian but a public servant(a joke) and in a position of power unlike you and I as civilians. She knew what she was doing. The sneaky bi*tch. You think an ivy league grad is that stupid? Only her supporters are stupid, she is quite intelligent.
     
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    And since you claim it is HIS special counsel office to do with as he pleases you would not object and there should be no fallout right? I mean how can you obstruct yourself?



    We are eager to get this resolved why aren't you? There are only two players in the Comey/obstruction thing, Comey and Trump. Why does it take over a year to resolve that? Special counsels can issue interim reports you know. If he has investigated that conversation and come to his conclusion then let us know and let the person being investigated know the outcome.
     
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    Oh yes they do, they are engaged in NATIONAL DEFENSE information on a daily basis, CLASSIFIED NATIONAL DEFENSE information.

    You should read the entire statute not just the titles.

    (f)
    Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense,
     
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    You're misquoting me. I said Trump continues to win, which is true. However the Swamp is just beginning to be drained and will go at a much faster pace once the Special Counsel is named and witnesses called under oath.
     
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    There is no distinction here. She grossly mishandled national defense information even turning it over to persons not authorized to see it.
     
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    There it is Mueller, Comey and Rosenstein are registered Republican. Just like Juan Williams is a life long Registered Republican who registers Republican to vote in Republican Primaries, yet votes Democrat in presidential elections.


    Imagine that, but for some reason leftist call out......But but but. Registered Republican.


    Why no help for General Flynn a life long registered Democrat?
     
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    Kind of like the left praising Gowdy and what he said to Trump's attorney, huh? Then everytime Gowdy jumps up with some criticism about Trump.

    Yep the same Gowdy that all on the left condemned over his treatment of Hillary and her Cult following over Benghazi.

    Did you want to try any other comparisons?
     
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    "American Thinker" has to win the prize for most ironically named media outlet.

    The ideologically-skewed pabulum they are serving begs the question why, in the alternate realm of reality, have neither the Trump Justice Department, a Republican-run Senate investigative committee, or a Republican-run House investigative committee contrived any credible pretexts for officially charging Mr Comey with anything.

    The Wall Street Journal reported that Page was on the radar of US counterintelligence officials since at least 2013 — more than three years before he joined the Trump campaign.

    The counterintelligence investigation into Russian efforts to influence U.S. elections began in July, 2016 when there was ample evidence to justify the FISA warrant, so much so that it was renewed during the Trump administration.

    Given Page's known history with Russians, his role as a Trump operative, Russia's interference in the US presidential election, and Trump's agents having had multiple trysts with Putin's agents that they attempted to conceal, it would have been gross incompetence not to have surveilled such covert activities.
     
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    Here is what the Lefts Constitutional Attorney and Professor says. He breaks it down in easy form so that leftists can fully understand it.


    McCabe just made life tough for Comey and the special counsel......


    Following his termination late Friday night, former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe declared that he was “singled out” after “unrelenting” attacks by President and critics. McCabe’s objections are less than credible, given the virtually unprecedented recommendation of career officials to fire the one-time acting FBI director.


    However, McCabe may have rectified his “singled out” status with his long statement criticizing his termination: In the middle of it is a line that could be viewed as incriminating fired FBI director James Comey not just in leaking sensitive information but also in lying to Congress.

    McCabe is accused of misleading investigators about allegedly giving information to a former Wall Street Journal reporter about the investigation of Hillary and the Clinton family’s charitable foundation. McCabe asserts in his post-firing statement that he not only had authority to “share” that information to the media but did so with the knowledge of “the director.” The FBI director at the time was Comey......snip~


    http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary...pecial-counsel

    Of course, Comey testified otherwise as to giving anything to the press.

    Now you can tell us how the Constitutional Attorney and Professor of Constitutional law is wrong.
     
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    Page was a FBI plant.
     
  12. MMC

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    Are you denying Wray was sticking up for McCabe then all of sudden suspended him?

    Show us when Director Wray became a Trump yes man.
     
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    Here's Page, skulking the back alleys in fear in DC hiding from Mueller. Interesting isn't it? :grin:



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  14. MMC

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    Wrong....the Right was calling the Mueller probe biased due to all the Demo Donors he had put on his Team with some of them that had represented Clinton. There was also that conflict of interest between Comey and Mueller.


    How did you come up with Calling Mueller Corrupt? Or were you looking to take things out of context on Purpose. Like most leftist do.
     
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    That Andrew McCabe, in his response to his firing, failed miserably on this score, implicating former FBI Director James Comey, is the conclusion of George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley:

    I see you suffer from tremendous confusion. The Congressional Committees don't directly charge anyone, they refer to the FBI and DOJ, and as they would be essentially investigating themselves, 4 Senators are calling for the appointment of a Special Counsel.

    Comey’s Failure to File Lawsuit Indicates He Knows that He Broke Several Laws.

    All they offer is flimsy threats:

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    [​IMG]Gregg Jarrett

    ✔@GreggJarrett


    If it is true that McCabe gave false and misleading statements to the IG, he should be charged criminally under 18 USC 1001. If he was under oath, as the AG statement alleges, he should be charged with perjury under 18 USC 1621. Losing his job is the least of McCabe’s concerns.

    8:00 AM - Mar 18, 2018


    [​IMG]Gregg Jarrett

    ✔@GreggJarrett



    As for Comey, he appears to have stolen government documents, a crime under 18 USC 641. If any were classified (as Grassley seems to believe), it’s a crime under 18 USC 1924 (and probably 793). Deceiving the FISA court and concealing evidence? That’s 6 different felonies.

    8:19 AM - Mar 18, 2018

    You do make an excellent point though, Comey could be charged with six crimes. I join you in calling for Comey's indictment.

    [​IMG]Gregg Jarrett

    ✔@GreggJarrett


    If Comey cleared Cinton for political reasons (as evidence suggests) that’s obstruction of justice. If he gave false testimony to Congress, well...you know. I could go all day long on Comey. Looking forward to his work of fiction with the pretentious, self-righteous title.

    8:30 AM - Mar 18, 2018

    Comey and his lawyer know he broke the law or they would have filed a lawsuit by now.

    [​IMG]Gregg Jarrett

    ✔@GreggJarrett


    Comey’s lawyer said his client has been defamed by Trump. So why hasn’t he sued? The reason is obvious. Truth is a defense to defamation. If Comey didn’t commit crimes and lie then he would file a lawsuit. His failure to do so indicates he knows what he did broke several laws.

    5:18 AM - Mar 19, 2018
    That doesn't justify using fabricated planted evidence by Hillary Clinton to illegally spy on US Citizens, Silly!
    They BROKE the Law. They concealed crucial evidence from FISC. They illegally spied on US citizens.

    A Foreign Power’s Recruitment Effort Is Not a Basis for a FISA Court Warrant

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018...age-fisa-warrant-fbi-should-have-interviewed/
     
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    Otherwise known as misleading investigators. As Turley pointed out.
     
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    If you are insisting that the Trump Justice Department's Republican Special Counsel being fired by Trump before he completes his patriotic mission should not be adversely commented upon by anyone, you will first need to issue your gag order to Mr Gowdy and proceed from there. (You may need to pay $130,000 for his silence.)



    I am not desperate, nor fearful of the truth being allowed to be exposed.

    The mills of the gods may grind slowly in the estimation of some, but justice is worth the wait. The Trump Justice Department' Special Counsel seems quite conscientious, and
     
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  18. MMC

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    Really tell us how The BO the peep appointed OIG and confirmed by the Demos was investigating over purely partisan political reasons.


    FACT: McCabe Firing was Recommended by FBI Ethics Office, Based on Nonpartisan IG's Findings.....


    The latest major controversy in DC is following a familiar pattern: A development occurs, then is immediately followed by President Trump reacting poorly, coupled with President Trump's opposition overreaching with misplaced and conspiratorial claims pertaining to Russia. In this case, the development is the firing of former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe -- who was placed on leave a number of weeks ago due to unspecified misconduct unearthed by the DOJ's nonpartisan Inspector General. The question in recent days was whether McCabe's superiors would terminate him prior to his planned retirement date, thus depriving him of a taxpayer-funded pension. We got our answer on Friday evening, via this statement from US Attorney General Jeff Sessions:


    McCabe has since lashed out through media interviews and, ironically, apparent leaks -- asserting that his dismissal is part of some Trumpist plot to undermine special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation. There is no doubt that the president's public football-spiking over McCabe's sacking is unseemly and unpresidential. It has also become clear that the president and his attorneys are once again itching for Mueller's probe to end, resulting in ill-advised, desperate-sounding and guilty-looking statements. Mueller has a superb reputation and inherited an investigation that was initiated not by the feds' divisive and potentially-tainted surveillance of Carter Page, but by a separate fact pattern (as confirmed even by Congressional Republicans). He must be allowed to complete his work, even if his close friendship with former FBI Director James Comey and the Democratic tilt of his team are fodder for fair criticism. That said, the storyline that McCabe's ouster amounts to an abuse of power, executed for nakedly partisan reasons that foretell dark things to come vis-a-vis Mueller, strikes me as overwrought, speculative, and hyperbolic. Let's review some facts, all of which would exist even if Trump had never fired off a single tweet about McCabe:


    (1) McCabe's firing came as the result of information gleaned by the Justice Department's nonpartisan Inspector General. Michael Horowitz was appointed to that position by President Barack Obama and was confirmed by a Democratic Senate. Not only that, his discovery of McCabe's apparent wrongdoing (unauthorized media leaking, about which McCabe later "lacked candor" with investigators) came in the context of a sprawling IG examination of the FBI's handling of various Clinton-related scandals and investigations in the run-up to the 2016 election. That investigation was demanded by Democrats, who cheered its announcement (McCabe's current lawyer even referred to the probe as "welcome news" in a Washington Post op/ed). Also, when did that soon-to-be-concluded investigation commence? Early January 2017, before Donald Trump took office. To recap: McCabe's fireable misconduct was unearthed by a Democrat-demanded inquiry that was launched during the Obama presidency, led by an Obama-appointed and Democrat-confirmed watchdog.


    (2) After the IG discovered what McCabe had done -- remember, the current, respected FBI Director immediately ceased defending McCabe upon seeing the evidence, and placed him on terminal leave -- those facts were relayed to the Bureau's nonpartisan Office of Professional Responsibility. That office is overseen by an official who was originally elevated to her role by...Robert Mueller. It was OPR, which serves as the FBI's internal ethics department, that recommended McCabe lose his job due to his actions. Sessions did not drop the hammer on McCabe out of nowhere; he did so because the ethics office (populated with non-political, career employees) reviewed the independent IG's findings and rendered a verdict that McCabe should be fired. Those are crucially important facts. Relatedly, I'll add that the American people deserve to see the evidence against McCabe, and the entire IG report, as soon as possible; plus, looking into whether the president's obnoxious lobbying had an inappropriate impact on the timing of McCabe's final dismissal is a legitimate line of inquiry, as well.


    (3) As part of his pushback, McCabe is arguing that he was not responsible for any unauthorized media leaks -- asserting specifically that the press "interaction" in question was discussed with, and approved by, then-Director Comey. This claim may open up a new can of worms, based on previous sworn testimony by Mr. Comey:


    The Left frequently accuses Trump of undermining the independence and legitimacy of Robert Mueller's work, yet that's exactly what many Trump critics are doing with the Inspector General's determinations, in furtherance of their own political narrative. One does not justify the other......snip~


    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...nding-n2462159


    So do you always make things up on the fly. What happened DT. Looks like you truly don't know whats been going on all along.
     
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    I specifically asked you about the Comey/obstruction allegations? How long does it take to investigate a simple conversation? And since if we are to believe your claims that it is Trump's investigation and not Muellers then why shouldn't he just end it?
     
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    In case you need illustration.

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    I'm not sure what you think your Trump is "winning" - unless it's the proffered refund of the $130,00 hush money from his diversion from a pregnant Trophy Wife #3.

    I'll let you pleasure yourself with your phantasms of Special Counsels and be satisfied with the real one.
     
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    To bad Trump didn't do it. Please stick to reality.
     
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    Oh so you are deliberately forgetting Bilbo Clinton and the Democrats, and all that impeachment stuff that was happening. I figured as much.
     
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    But you did understand Yoda in in the Star Wars Movies, Right?
     
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