Trump congratulates Putin????

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  1. Sandy Shanks

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    That is hilarious. I don't suppose you can prove your comments concerning Obama?

    Yeah, I thought not.

    Let me see if I have this right. You are blaming Obama for Putin's aggression? Is that right? What would you have suggested Obama do about Crimea?

    Tell me something. Why do Trump supporters go out of their way to sympathize with Putin and Russia much like their hero?
     
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    How in the world did Obama disarm the Ukraine?
     
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    Russia has First World military and First World economy. In many ways, Russian society is much better then US Society.
     
  4. AmericanNationalist

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    Delusions are never the substitute of reality, it was President Obama who alerted us to that fact:

    "You can have your own opinions, but you can't have your own facts." A 'body of evidence' that hasn't even led to a charge of wrongdoing. Let me repeat that: Mueller cannot even so MUCH as publicly pronounce a charge against the POTUS. He is actively stealing US treasury dollars to fulfill your fantasy.
     
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    So what's reason for Putin waving his nukes in our face just week or using his mercenaries to attack our soldiers in Syria?
     
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    Are you posting FROM Moscow?
     
  7. AmericanNationalist

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    Who knows and who cares. As long as the US is a geopolitical power, other powers will try and compete with us. The POTUS has not in anyway, shape or form weakened our competitiveness. The division in the country on the other hand, has done a terrific job trying to achieve a weakened America.
     
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    Like Ken Star's search for a bad real estate deal?

    Yeah, lot's of Russians involved in that one. Sure.:roll:
     
  9. AmericanNationalist

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    Yes, they searched up that Dossier-led link and it ended up...nowhere. Nada. The pings were coincidental. Here's something far more concerning for Establishment Politicians on both ends of the aisle: Inevitably, they and the #resistance will have to admit to the facts on the ground: They wasted a hell of a lot of money and had a bunch of anti-POTUS propaganda, to create a state of affairs in America not seen since Reconstruction.

    Who do you think will be reelected, after having endorsed the waste? What excuse would you give to the American Public? Roads are declining in some areas, but you have time to try and find something, anything. It'll be a new wave, but a very different wave. People who will run, will cite this wasted spending on the record. And there'll be those Left/Right who will come out and oppose what occurred.
     
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    You're just tossing any old crap at the wall to see what will stick.

    How does Mueller's investigation prevent Trump from doing his phucking job? Because his panties get into a bunch and he can't think straight? Mueller's crossing his little red line?

    Pathetic!

    Seriously, did you ever watch his show on the Apprentice? This is his schtick, to string you guys along, to distract you, entertain you, tell you what you want to hear. There's no there there with Trump.
     
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    Actually, I'm more bemoaning Congress's inability to do anything productive and I'm bemoaning the total waste of dollars of the Mueller "investigation"(Note, the quotation marks are sarcastically mocking it.) This is grand theft on a scale never before seen. I didn't know that all I had to do to legally defraud the US Government is claim I'm investigating something on their behalf.
     
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    Obama Congratulates Putin in 2012 ????
     
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    The only somewhat viable candidates to contest the Russian presidential elections against Putin were an ultra nationalist and the communist party candidate & neither one of them were banned.
     
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    That's because there is corruption within the higher ups in the FBI

    Obama did too, so what? They were doing the same while Obama was President, but you guys never said anything when he congratulated Putin. No difference. Obama even told him he would be better able to work with him after his reelection. Still you guys said nothing.
     
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    Western stooge candidates are not credible opponents of Putin and they usually do something to intentionally disqualify themselves from contesting the election so that the election does not prove just how little support they actually have. They are there mostly for propaganda in western nations.
     
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    The election could not have been rigged because there were cameras in the polling stations broadcasting on the internet as well as representatives from the six political parties monitoring the election and it's counting.

    Putin is not Fascist but you could make a case out for authoritarian.
     
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    But how big of a donation to the Clinton foundation would have been required of the Russians?
     
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    As justifiably annoyed as the Russians undoubtedly are at the moment with the US - having the US become impoverished or embroiled in a civil war would leave a power vacuum for a rising super power China to fill that is not in Russia's long term interests.
     
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    The Russian's agenda are regional.
     
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    Would it have been different if the election wasn't a sham? Should Trump have praised him if he was elected fairly?
     
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    Of most importance I agree but there is also BRICS and the goal of a multi polar world is not really helped by swapping one super power for another.
     
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    You think its likely that the 2016 election was the only US election which Russia has tried to influence?

    How do we "know" any of this?
     
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    OMG you don't believe any of the US intelligence agencies' findings? That's too bad. I don't think ours is the only country Russia interfered with. Do you think other Western world leaders gave Putin a call to congratulate him? Do you think Theresa May gave him a call?
     
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    I do, but they only determined with high 'confidence.' Do you think that if Putin made a confession, it wouldn't make any difference? And the same high confidence cannot be said for the UK regarding the poisoning - The British government can only say that it was a Russian nerve agent, but they haven't suggested that Putin was involved.

    Do you think that 2016 was the first U.S election that they interfered with?

    Did David Cameron congratulate him in 2012 on his victory?
     
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