EASTER SPECIAL - The Resurrection of Christ and any Scientific Theories which could explain this.

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    Easter or Paschar is the story of Jesus Christ's crucifixion on Friday and his Resurrection on Sunday some 1, 985 years ago.

    We have theoretical science and practical science.

    The science for time travel for example, travelling forwards in time and travelling backwards in time both have theories.
    What if modern technology found it's way back?
     
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    Could you please elaborate ?

    Because you know what you are trying to say.
    Others reading this, perhaps not so much.
     
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    It should be noted that we travel forward in time. That isn't a theory.

    Bright light, a rock magically moves, angels who look like people, risen from the dead... gotta be aliens. :D

    In the movie, The Man from Earth, Jesus [now named John Oldman] had been trained in meditation by Buddha, and faked his death.

    It was suspected even then that some of the Apostles faked the whole thing.
     
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    IF this ever happened they would need an accurate date of crucifixion, an accurate description of the Jesus individual, the needed time and equipment to document and verify his miraculous re-animation after death and some means of convincing everyone to abandon Eostre for a Zombie.
     
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    Or, no date required per say, just the influence of Christ from immaculate conception to resurrection.
    To suggest they'd need a date is to suggest they'd target a specific date; but to suggest they just influenced and their influence was dated later, seems more apt.
    He rose 1, 985 year ago, but that miracle could have been orchestrated then anyway without knowing a date, but simply going back and randomly selecting somebody.

    So instead of going back and 'looking for Jesus', they went back in time and 'made Jesus Jesus'. - To make something with future technology means they don't need to know the date. The exact date it happened happened because they made it happen.
     
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    You are either making no sense or the OP is.
     
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    Why would knowing the date of something occurring matter if it hasn't happened yet?
    They might not know the exact dates, it doesn't stop them going back and making it happen.
     
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    There is and indian tradition that said christ traveled to india and they even have some monument or something there to celebrate it. This was post his supposed death. There has also the fact that the roman empire kept records, and none have ever been found that evidences that christ was put to death.

    Personally I think the story of his death is a metaphor for the rebirth He spoke of while teaching on earth, about the Father, about salvation/enlightenment. I think over time the people there just forgot that it was a metaphor, or used it as a recruitment tool for a new religion.
     
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    Interesting....

    There is other evidence to suggest Jesus had a life after the story of his crucifixion.
     
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    Hold on a sec. Going by you OP the only logical assumption was going back in time to witness the crucifixion and resurrection. If this was incorrect please clarify as asked earlier in this thread....if it IS accurate you again make no sense.
     
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    I never said going back to witness anything.
    I said/meant; going back to orchestrate everything.

    When you go back in time to orchestrate something, you could go back in time to any date.
    That's why knowledge of the exact dates isn't necessary;
    'You just go back in time and use future technology.'
     
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    Thanks, that Japanese deal is new to me. I have never been quite able to understand how God, dwelling in a human body, which is then put to death, the body that is, can save anyone. It looks like magic, hocus pocus from the Creator of the Universe. What makes much more sense is that JC brought something new, the idea that we can all be sons of god, by seeking and finding the Kingdom within consciousness, which creates a revolution in consciousness, per the rebirth, and one is saved, or enlightened. A reconnection to God, on a very personal and real level. Yielding sons of god.

    You then discard all of the magic and hocus pocus which never made any sense anyways and you connect with reality, which is not magic and hocus pocus. Yet magic and hocus pocus can help to spread a new religion. People have always loved such things. And its founder rising from the dead would serve this. As miracles tend to do. If not for this I personally think that like Zen Buddhism, the real magic of existence would be seen, as they say, in drawing water and chopping wood.
     
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    I see...so basically go back in time to make something happen instead of God?

    Or is it something (whatever it is) to assist God?

    Where does Jesus fit into this?
     
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    Close, not instead of God, but; becoming God.

    Jesus fits in because the time travellers found Mary and impregnated her and then made Jesus raise from the dead in spirit only.
    I've seen Tupac holograms perform concerts.
    If the time travellers made a Jesus hologram, that's how Jesus fits into it.
    From them finding his virgin mother, to them showing the masses a Jesus hologram.
     
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    Okay...why didn't you start with that?

    IF we could time travel and wanted to seem Goddish, we could certainly do so....No zombie men required.
     
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    I'm guilty of assuming that I had.
    Perhaps I should have made myself clearer.
     
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    I have faith in Time Travel.
    We argue Time Travel doesn't exist because we have nobody from the future coming back;
    But with evidence such as The Holy Bible and other ancient anomalies like these ancient stone sculptures and carvings;
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    I say that's proof (a sort of proof/a documented proof) of Time Travel.
     
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    What if we get air soldiers in the future having battles in the sky?
    And what if they went back in time and had massive battles too, and;
    People called them angels.
    They came down from time travelling space bases or whatever.
     
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    Wow...so you honestly think Ancient Aliens would look like and wear Apollo era spacesuits while visiting Earth? Or is it that you think people from our future would decide to play dress up for ancient South Americans?

    Apparently humans completely lack imagination and technology in the future.
     
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    And what if Unicorns could fart fairy gold dust that could transform humans into Elven superheroes that ate Alien offspring to gain power over all matter in the Universe.
     
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    I've seen that show, and the Meme.
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    and...
    Like a sports fan watching their favourite team screaming at the TV or radio rooting for their team;
    I've seen this show (don't go out of my way to watch it, but I have seen an episode or two)...
    This show had me yelling **** like;
    "It's time travel!"
    Over and over, and over.... - to a point where I've stopped watching it because every time I'm yelling 'Time travel!' at it.
    ... Yeah.
    and I'm passionate about this too; If anything were to annoy me about whatever, about being lied to, or, people being ignorant; it's that show.
    I mean, there are more important things to care about, but still. :)
    I don't believe it's 'Aliens', I believe it's from a lot closer to home and that it could be proof time travel perhaps.
     
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    PAGE TWO: Happy Easter BTW Forum, to bring you up to speed on my own personal theory of the Resurrection of Christ.
    I do totally believe in it, and have my own theories on how it happened, please, feel free to share yours.
     
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    ........uh.................neat.........tecoyah backs away slowly
     
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    If you don't get it, you don't it, simple as.
    I don't understand what not's to get though in the theory of Time Travel.
     
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    The resurrection idea seems to be taking some flak these days with all the modern scholarship looking closer at some historical angles that are not in mainstream awareness. Bottom line: Resurrection is more of the smoke and mirrors fostered on an unwitting population by those slight-of-hand conjurors, Paul and the Constantine gang, with their cleverly crafted New Testament/King James Bible propaganda, contaminated with distortions, and produced by cherry picking particular source manuscripts. Their shenanigans are apparent when comparing with the Dead Sea Scrolls. The Book of Enoch and others were not included in the official canon because these did not mesh with their agenda.

    Consider the trustworthiness of those who have pulled the reins that have shaped our mindsets. First there was Caiaphas, the Jewish priest who orchestrated the condemnation of Christ, prevailing over Pilate, who would have preferred to excuse "this just man." Much later on, key "church fathers" undermined the strong background that supported the concept of reincarnation. Then they relegated Mary to the status of a follower rather than that of a disciple who may have outranked Peter, perhaps even as the wife of Jesus. They pushed their "Peter Principle" so as to make Rome the focus of power and control instead of towards the true origin, Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem. Shifting gears a bit here, I bring up the subject of the false flag, e.g. the Gulf of Tonkin incident in which the shadow government faked an attack by a North Vietnamese ship on one of our military fleet so as to start that war. We now have enough insights on the assassination of JFK to realize the extent of crookedness involved, and speaking of crookedness, we've had a fresh taste of that from a presidential candidate and affiliates in high positions who have made crookedness a way of life, a lifestyle. And these are the kind of people that so many of us have entrusted with the shaping of the philosophies that guide our souls. So many of us should hang our heads in shame for letting them pull the wool over our eyes for the last 1500 years.

    Don't get me wrong. The core messages and principles fostered by Christ have great merit.
     

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