Why the AR-15 is so deadly

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  1. DoctorWho

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    No more than reinstatement of segregation or suppression of The First Amendment.
     
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    u gonna report him to the SS?
     
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    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    The 5.56 is so LOW POWERED that it's often illegal to hunt deer with it!!!
    It's a pee shooter in the rifle world..

    Take that article in the OP to any gun shop or range where people have a lick of sense and they will laugh their asses off at you..
     
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    regulate use yes

    ban commonly owned guns NOPE
     
  5. Xenamnes

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    Not when it comes to the matter of prohibiting the legal ownership of firearms that are in common use for legal purposes, such as the AR-15. Any firearm that is in common use, as per Heller and subsequent rulings, cannot be prohibited from ownership simply because they are occasionally used by criminals.
     
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    "I used an assault rifle in the military. I don't think civilians should own them...

    "I’ve shot thousands of rounds, and I’ve seen the effects of the bullets’ impact, and I want nothing of it. A friend of mine, himself an Army Special Forces officer with numerous combat deployments, agonized over the massacre in Orlando: 'People who say they need an AR for hunting or home defense often don’t understand the weapon’s ballistics or overpenetration,' he said. 'ARs cause horrific damage to humans; that’s why the military developed them.' He continued: 'If you want to shoot an AR so bad, please feel free to join the fight against ISIS in the military.' "
    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/16/...y-i-dont-think-civilians-should-own-them.html

    Most gun owners probably have not witnessed firsthand the damage that these weapons can inflict on the human body. The soldier who wrote the article has and therefore wants nothing to do with such weapons outside of the military.
     
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    Should we listen to women who've had abortions and regretted to outlaw abortions?

    We've explained to you that there is nothing unique about the AR-15 and its ammunition. My bolt action .223 target rifle can fire anything that the military rifles can. So can a Ruger Ranch rifle. The AR-15 is available in over 100 calibers, nearly all of which are more powerful than .223/5.56mm NATO with hunting rounds that do more damage than the FMJ-BT military bullet.
     
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    The AR-15 was originally released to the public as a hunting rifle, long before the military ever utilized the M16 rifle in the Vietnam matter.
     
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    Fake history.

    "With the AR-15 patents long expired, Jim Glazier and Karl Lewis started manufacturing the first civilian versions of the AR-15. These opened AR-15's up to the civilian market from the year 1989 to 1994."
    http://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art/the-complete-history-of-the-ar-15-rifle
     
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    Garbage article with many inaccuracies.
    Colt marketed the H-Bar rifle to Civilians for competitive shooting.

    The A.W.B. banned features, Colt's H-Bar was still sold minus a flash hider, bayonet mount etc...
     
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    IMHO it's probably the best match rifle out of the box available for the price.
     
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    What's full semi-auto? The guy and story is total BS.
     
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    "As early as 1963, Colt started manufacturing this "new" rifle in semiautomatic only with the civilian population and the law enforcement community in mind. Sold as the AR-15 Sporter it was virtually identical to the M16 with the exception of the fire control group. With an early retail price of $189.50 it was marketed to the hunting and sporting community as a beacon of a new wave of manufacturing technology allowing it to be lightweight while remaining accurate and effective. Although several minor changes have been made to separate the function of the semiautomatic version of these rifles from their fully automatic relatives over the years, and to keep them from being easily converted to fully automatic, they remain wildly popular and an enormous civilian market thrives today. Numerous upgrades and model enhancements of the civilian line of semiautomatic variants have followed very closely to those designed for the fully automatic models keeping them on a fairly level playing field.

    With the 1977 expiration of Gene Stoner's patent on the M16 gas system, several companies sprang up and started manufacturing their own versions of this popular rifle. The trademark model name of "AR-15" was, and still is, owned by Colt, and they are still one of many businesses that manufacture this weapon system and its many configurations."

    http://www.smallarmsreview.com/display.article.cfm?idarticles=116
     
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    From the Colt Manufacturing Company itself, the original producer of the AR-15 rifle.

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    It was advertised from the very beginning as a hunting rifle. Note the use of the term Colt Firearms Division, which originated in the united states back in 1964.
     
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    Meaning nonsense from one who does not have any idea on the subject of firearms, looking to sell a political narrative rather than fact.
     
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    most soldiers have no perspective that is useful in determining civilian firearms use. Soldiers who wish to deny private citizens the right to keep and bear arms have disrespected the constitution they took an oath to defend. Thus they should be ignored as liars or oath breakers. I also note I don't see these Democrat party operatives saying the police shouldn't have those weapons.
     
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    Depends on the Men, and Women, I have had many Freinds, Veterans, solidly Pro-Gun and great shooters, some also LEOs, Attorneys, Physicians etc.... Very honest and forthright on the Right to keep and bear Arms.
     
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    Armalights started appearing in the North of Ireland in ‘69 or so. But, the versions we saw were not AR15’s, but AR18 (yep). The were referred to as the Armalite and by another moniker, something like the Black Widow, Widowmaker, a name that escapes me now. However, I don’t remember people considering it with awe, partially because the ammo for it wasn’t plentiful at the time in the North. Most of the black market buyers seemed to prefer the old surplus American M1 carbines, the gun that seemed to be ever present at Republican funerals with the honor brigades.
     
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    Those would have been part of a special production run not available to the general (International) market.
    Can't say any more than that.

    Makes perfect sense the M-1 Carbine being more popular, as it was way more common, and most people had vast stores of parts and ammo readily available as well as the knowledge of how to easily repair them.
     
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    It’s not even medium powered, it’s a ****ing varmint round.
     
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    Actually as I understand it, though could be a product of memory, the AR18 patent had either expired or was sold to overseas manufacturers in the UK, and elsewhere. I believe the ones I saw weren’t US made. They were liked because they had a folding stock and could be more easily concealed than some of the WWII vintage Long guns that were around.

    I never owned one, but I did like the M-1s I had the occasion to handle. Read all of the ammo performance complaints and heard those of my Da, but with modern ammo it would seem to me there might be a niche for them...they seemed pretty indestructible as I remember. No clue of their availability.
     
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    Here's one story of the AR-18: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArmaLite_AR-18

    Interesting tidbit: "The AR-18 was put into limited production at ArmaLite's machine shop and offices in Costa Mesa, California. A semi-automatic version of the AR-18 known as the AR-180 was later produced for the civilian market between 1969 and 1972"
     
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    The M1 Carbine is a great little rifle. I kept one around for years. Reliable, durable, and accurate. Cor-Bon actually has a defensive hollowpoint that breaks 2100 fps and turns it into a perfectly viable defensive carbine.
     

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