An interesting fact about armed guards

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  1. SiNNiK

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    Care to list a limitation you advocate for? Preferably one we don't already have...
     
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    I don’t advocate for any. However, there are some I would have no issue with. For example, I would have no issue with a federal magazine limits of 10 rounds. My state has this limit and it hasn’t disrupted our lives one bit. We are still able to function as a society. True story.
    I also couldn’t give two shits if ‘assault’ weapons were banned. I don’t own one, don’t care to own one, so don’t give a rats ass if anyone else can own one.
    Again, I’m not ADVOCATING for these things, but I won’t cry myself to sleep if they happen. I guess I just have other more important things to worry about.
     
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    :roflol:Civil war? My lord...thank you for the laugh.
     
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    If children are so important why don't you propose raising the salaries of teachers to be in line with other equally qualified professionals?
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    You want people with PTSD, bad hearing, poor eyesight and failing knees running around firing guns in crowded schools? :eek:
     
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    How do you know this? Because a few people on a message board said they would do it? Please...there is a HUGE difference between talk and doing.
     
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    How much more in taxes are you willing to pay to protect your kids?
     
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    Given the problems of police officers habit of shootings by error innocent black males somehow the idea of having even such train officers in schools in worrisome let alone some undertrained armed bigots in the school.

    I just can see such armed teachers allowing the white parkland shooter to walk out the door as he did in fact do and shooting any number of innocent black males as thankfully did not happen this time at least.
     
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    Solution as far as the money is concern is simple sire charge assault rifles enough to pay for the security.

    If you wish such devices of mass murder available for some reason then you should be willing to paid the cost for the added protections such firearms called for in our schools.
     
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    "Well yes sir! I heard a noise and took my AR out on the porch an skeered that violent criminal off! No sir I didn't seem him but I knows he was thar"

    How many of those were in your survey?
     
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    Well, if we took weapons of war off the streets and stopped making it easy for any nut to get one, you wouldn't need armed guards anywhere, which makes your question moot.

    Putting additional burdens on taxpayers to hire and train armed guards adds costs. And since these costs are basically unfunded mandates (unless taxes are raised to pay for them), the cost is bigger classes and lower paid teachers.

    I could have hired 10 teachers this year for the money we are going to have to spent to put SRO's in six middle schools.

    That's the real equation.
     
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    I love the idea.

    Since there is still no political will to stand up to the NRA and the munitions industry, we are on a straight path to the next mass killing. I doubt anyone has any illusions about that. The risk of being randomly killed by being in the wrong public place when the nut who bought his "assault rifle" legally is now baked into our everyday life in the United States.

    Which makes the US the only industrialized country on earth which had decided to live this way. Right wingers defend it with all sorts of rationalizations and sheer nonsense.

    And the carnage will continue.

    So, since we don't have the courage to limit weapons, we ought to tax the hell out of them. A 500% excise tax payable to a fund dedicated to funding school resource officers sounds like a great idea.

    Nobody is taking the gun nut's guns away from them. We're just taxing them for the risk they impose on the rest of us.
     
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    Lets not forget they get a full years pay for working 9 months.
     
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    Your abysmal grasp of what teachers are paid and how they have to pay their bills says volumes.
     
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    You are the one saying you want "sensible gun control" so you should be the one to tell us exactly what that is in your opinion. I think we already have that so I'd like to hear your version.
     
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    LWers on here make me laugh. They not only pretend to own guns but pretend we don't already have "some form of gun control".
     
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    "Kleck says they found 222 bonafide DGUs directly via survey. The defender had to "state a specific crime they thought was being committed" and to have actually used the gun, even if just threateningly or by "verbally referring to the gun." Kleck insists the surveyors were scrupulous about eliminating any sketchy or questionable-seeming responses".
     
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    In my state a certified teacher typically makes more than $60,000 per year, with the average salary in one area of the state exceeding $90,000.
    Seems pretty good for 9 months of work.
     
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    What proof do you have that they are ‘pretending’???
     
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    Get some reading comprehension. I told I wasn't talking about parties.
     
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    You might try reading the news instead of relying on CNN and ESPN. The country shares many analogies to what happened before the Spanish Civil War. But you'd actually have to know something to comprehend it.
     
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    Who are you going to be fighting this was against? The liberals, who I’m told on here don’t even own guns? And why would a civil war even take place? Oh right, you think someone’s coming to take all your guns away.
     
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    It largely depends on which state you are talking about.

    In NYC $60k is barely enough to exist on and $90k is still way below the level that qualifies you for rent controlled apartments.
     
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    In all seriousness, the degree of polarization within the country is at an all time high and likely something not seen since before the Civil War. The analogies to what happened in Spain in the 1930's are very worrisome. Then you have the breakdown of law where the states are choosing which federal laws they seek to enforce. It cannot continue and the solutions could come to dissolution or a civil war.
     
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