Ronny Jackson withdraws as VA secretary nominee

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  1. ocean515

    ocean515 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Makes no difference to me what you think MrT.

    I'm hoping for, and will be demanding, a scorched earth approach to every nominee presented by the next Democrat President in the White House.

    No mercy. No holds barred. A laser like focus on utter and complete total professional destruction, a policy established by the Democratic Party.
     
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    Right. Different levels of scrutiny. Caring for the health of the President of the United States is less important, and requires less levels of scrutiny, than being an administrator of the VA.

    Think more.

    It's just tar and feather for the Dems.

    I'm anxious to see the favor returned in the future.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL, so name them.
     
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    ABSOLUTELY. Dude.

    You are comparing the health and wellness for one family - one that would demand an UNLIMITED number of doctors if necessary - with the health and wellness of Every. Veteran. In. The. Country.

    One is a personal doctor that could be replaced on a whim and the other is a CABINET position.
     
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  5. ocean515

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    Spare the theatrics MrT.

    A person with direct and personal access to the President of the United States most clearly would be under far greater scrutiny than an administrator. You really want to suggest otherwise?

    One misstep, and the President of the United States could be dead. One misstep as administrator, and people probably wouldn't notice.

    Can't wait to see Republicans return the favor at some point in the future.

    It will be sweet to see the reaction by the Dems, who created the policy.
     
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    Great! Government by Cobra Kai.... Sweep The Leg!!

    Mrs. Clinton was right.....again
     
  7. ocean515

    ocean515 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would anyone object to following the same policy established by the Democrats?
     
  8. MrTLegal

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    This particular "administrator" requires Congressional advice and consent. The presidents personal doctor does not.

    So yes, they are subjected to objectively different levels of scrutiny.

    And seriously, why do you keep painting Jackson as being derailed and attacked by democrats when Republicans are ones who have the power to delay or halt hearings? And when the senior Republican from that committee signed the letter demanding further investigation.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am 64 and have owned and operated bussinesses since I was 19. That said, I still feel that these so called CONservative judges have always favored corporate interests over the rights of working people. Just because I own bussinesses does not mean that I am automatically going to join the slimy GOP, which is at an all time low point when it comes to integrity. It amazes me seeing these tv talking heads out there attacking our top law enforcement people while running interference for Russian mobsters. Fox News may as well move their headquarters to Stalingrad...
     
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    Seriously?

    Who brought forward "rumors" and "allegations"?

    Jackson was perfect to care for the health and well being of President Obama for 8 years, no "rumors" or "allegations" ever presented.

    Suddenly, the mans a drunken car crashing pill pusher when nominated to head the VA.

    No escaping that fact, and the precedent Democrats have established, which as I've written, I am anxious to see repeated in the future when the shoe is on the other foot.
     
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    More like the victim of dem lies.
     
  12. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    Unless and until you can admit that senior Republican members of the Senate Armed Forces Committee also supported investigating the allegations, your anxieties are dismissed as hyper partisan babble.
     
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    Got anything but your own personal assessments concerning the qualifications of people you oppose? Got anything to back up your condemnations of all these people? No? No links? No proof? No evidence?

    Surely you, especially, could do better than that, councilor... after all, you style yourself as "MrTLegal". But you take it upon yourself to smear sh*t on all these appointees for what reason? That they're not more of the kind of crap that your beloved President "Messiah" dredged up from some hyperliberal, America-hating political toilet?

    I'll give you credit for knowing that our NATO treaty enabled the globalist hegemon, spearheaded by the French, to enable Obama to overthrow the legitimate government of Libya (which has been in total Islamo-chaos ever since) -- but what gives you or any other Leftist the right to assume the guilt of any other American citizen -- WITHOUT PROOF?!

    WHAT were the 'charges' against Ronny Jackson? WHAT were the crimes? WHERE are the indictments? WHEN was there a trial with judge and jury? WHERE were the witnesses who gave sworn testimony under oath? Answer: there weren't any! But that's just fine with a liberal Democrat faction whose mind-set willingly accepts trial-by-innuendo, trial-by-rumor, and trial-by-political-bias....

    [​IMG]."Meh, in a way, I did win the war -- have ya seen what Democrats are doing in America lately?"
     
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    Oh geeze.

    And what do you conclude from their support, that they believe those accusations?

    Is it possible to extract yourself from anxious hyperpartisan babble, and understand their support might have been motivated by a desire to clear Jackson, rather than to join in the smearing of a man Dems were happy to have treat President Obama for 8 years.

    My money is on the fact this possibility can't possibly enter into your thinking.

    Looking forward to the future, and if Republicans have the balls, a public creaming of every nominee the next Dem President attempts to have join their administration.
     
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    So what? Jackson removed himself from consideration before the Republican intent of clearing him could be fulfilled?
     
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    Seriously, stop making these posts where you ask and answer your own strawman accusations and then implying that Ronny Jackson was held up by nazis. I will just put you ignore if you can not or will engage respectfully.
     
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    Please, feel welcome to put me on 'ignore' if you are too inept, and too cowardly to answer one simple question: What did Ronny Jackson do to warrant the UNPROVEN, UNSUBSTANTIATED smear campaign and character assassination he was subjected to by your political faction?!

    Hint: pissed-off hyperliberals have been putting me on 'ignore' at this Forum for almost ten years. If you are being too greatly challenged (and lacking any evidence concerning the ruination of an innocent man, Ronny Jackson), JOIN THE CLUB! :banana:
     
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    Fair enough.
     
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    As I understand it, he allowed his name to be put forward for head of the VA without standard and proper research by the current administration.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nny-jackson-annotated/?utm_term=.9e3f175ab4c4

    Oh, and PS, one of the R heros of recent times seems to think some of these allegations need to be looked into.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/29/gowdy-ronny-jackson-559340

    Again, a truly functioning government would have discovered these allegations and have answers in place BEFORE the nomination was made or then decide to not make the nomination at all and move on to candidate B. Being surprised by all of this just shows the general decline of government processes under Trump.

    Poor Admiral Jackson.... another probably decent man victimized by stupidity....
     
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    Of course he did.

    Why would someone with such a distinguished career, one whose service was praised by EX President Obama, want to put up with the vile BS the left has established as the norm? Why would someone want to put their family and friends through such a pathetic ordeal?

    Tarred and feathered, and then step into the mess at the VA EX President Obama failed to address? Why do that? Would you?

    I'm very hopeful Tester's disgusting display of pathetic partisanship results in his complete destruction as a politician. That would be sweet. Karma is a bitch, and he deserves every bit of it.
     
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    Aside from the fact that the R panel chairman did not object to the release of the allegations, I agree with you that Senator Tester really did a good job here... He saved this Senate committee from wasting a lot of time and effort from going through the motions of rejecting Admiral Jackson in a public forum and forcing Trump to submit a candidate who has a chance of getting confirmed.

    It's that sort of initiative that I admire from anybody in the Senate. I imagine someday in the future, after he thinks it over, Admiral Jackson will come to the same conclusion....
     
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    Since Jackson withdrew from consideration for the position for which he appeared to be unqualified, Congress, apparently, won't be investigating any accusations against him by his associates in government and military personnel, but he clearly believes they require scrutiny by somebody.

     
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    They have been investigated and Jackson was cleared by the Secret Service. This is disgusting character assassination and those who support these Witch Hunts are the same who supported McCarthyism. There is no pride or decency left in the Democratic Party.

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/04/28/sen-tester-owes-apology-to-rear-admiral-ronny-jackson/
     
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    Well, that article did get one thing correct... Jackson is certainly owed an apology (but not from the Senator).... Seems this inexcusable nomination ended his presidential Dr. career

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/29/ronny-jackson-trump-doctor-559529

    But I give you props for hitting 3 major RW hot button phrases in just 1 sentence... "character assassination", "Witch Hunts" and "McCarthyism" That gives me RW Talking Points Bingo!!!

    Here's another list of VA possibles.... Oh PLEASE, pick the guy on Fox and Friends... I'm sure that'll sail through confirmation without any issues.....:eyepopping:....

    https://www.militarytimes.com/veter...ndidates-to-be-the-next-va-secretary-nominee/
     
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    I, however, never put anyone on "ignore". Yes, in my not-too-very-humble opinion, it is the height of intellectual cowardice and scholastic impotence to put anyone on "ignore". I welcome all of it -- the frequent agreements, and the ever-present disagreements. It's called REALITY.

    Epilogue: Does it interest you that Conservatives neither need, nor have asked for "crying rooms" at college campuses? I'll bet these poor, 'disturbed', little snowflakes wish they could just put put the whole damned, cold, cruel world on "ignore", but it doesn't work that way.... :omg:
    http://www.businessinsider.com/cry-...iversity-of-utah-campus-2018-4?r=UK&IR=T&IR=T

    And if it offends you, or any of your cohort, that I equate those who would assassinate the character of a man without any evidence or proof -- WHATSOEVER -- with NAZIS, then, yeah, just remember -- 'Nazi IS as Nazi DOES'. In the United States, it is only lawful, fair, honorable, and decent to accord to anyone the right to be assumed INNOCENT until proven GUILTY. You believe otherwise, councilor -- especially when the person in question aspired to have a role in the Trump Administration? Why doesn't that surprise me....
     
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