61 dead Palestinians.... why did Trump do this?

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  1. Polydectes

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    well because they're Hamas Trump didn't do anything Hamas just wants to kill everyone they got killed first it's a good thing.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You seem to believe that Hamas is like the Republican Party. Where the "leader" dictates, and they blindly follow. It doesn't work like that.

    Palestinians believe that Eastern Jerusalem belongs to them. Not because Hamas or... anybody tells them. That's just what they believe.

    In any case, as I have said many times on this thread: Hamas is responsible, Palestinians who stormed the fence are responsible, the Israeli government and army are responsible, and now... Trump is also responsible for those deaths. This last fact does not preclude the previous ones. But it does insert us further into the conflict.

    And it was so unnecessary...
     
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    President Trump knows that only Israel has the technology that could theoretically set in motion a plan that could unify several major nations around a plan that could prevent the collapse of the USA petro - dollar....... so he may have saved the lives of tens of thousands of Americans if we factor the probable results of not- cozying up to Israel..... over the next decade or two?

    President Trump has a good grasp of the probable implications of Multiverse Theory........ ..........



    P. M. Netanyahu, President Trump has a 4.3 trillion dollar problem....



    Listen to the Jim Rickards video two times as I did over the past couple of weeks..... and you will realize that President Trump had very little choice but to go all out in assisting the only ally that he has capable of saving the Petro- dollar. (Yes.... .Israel!)
     
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    Israel has not accepted it. They illegally annexed East Jerusalem and keep building settlements in land that belongs to Palestinians.
     
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    Yes... when a group of people will teach their kids that becoming a suicide bomber is a good career option.......... that group of people is in serious trouble!
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's a very bigoted comment. It's their religious beliefs that Trump needlessly attacked. And he did so in their area of the world.
     
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    Is repeating over and over this Strawman argument the only thing you have?

    I repeat what I said: Hamas is responsible, those who stormed the fence are responsible, the Israeli army and government are responsible... and now Trump is also responsible for those deaths.

    Let's see you take responsibility one day for helping to put that moron in the Presidency.
     
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    Where the hell did you get the idea that they were terrorists?

    A very racist comment.
     
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    Some on the left would be in discussions for a Deylicate of Palestine, to ensure incidents like these, don't happen. Delicateness, may be Necessary.
     
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    Read the OP.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    No. But we're responsible for putting Trump in the Presidency. Therefore, his idiotic actions reflect on all of us.
     
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    Israel did accept it in 1948.

    Then they were attacked.

    I'll let you get back to defending Hamas.
     
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    The Palestinians merely need a Lord spiritual and temporal, to deliver all of their problems.

    A Dey of Palestine, could be such a Lord.

    A new day in Palestine?
     
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    I believed Hamas called for and even paid persons to go and riot at the scene as they sent their own into to create violence in order to get some of them killed in order to gain they sympathy and support of some people.

    It seems to have worked on some.

    In the meantime there are 50 less Hamas fighters.
     
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    But YOU are the one calling the guy who whupped the DNC and Clinton machine a moron. When the winner is a moron, the loser is something substantially worse- and that was obviously what you wanted. WHO is the moron again?

    WHEN you can match accomplishments with the president, you will be qualified to criticize. Otherwise, you are just qualified to bitch, and that doesn't require anything- a jackass can stand in the field and bray, it's just noise.

    I learned long ago that people who are unwilling to accept responsibility for themselves are remarkably nimble in finding ways to evade the responsibility, blaming everything that they don't like in life on someone else- and demanding that such person fix it for them. That's why they never amount to crap; they are like brat kids in the rear of the school bus who think if they harass the driver long enough he will take them to Disneyland instead of school.

    Since you obviously don't grasp how rejecting responsibility for your own actions also insures you will have no ability to control your own life, you need to know that nobody can or should help. If you have a problem- it's your problem. Deal with it.
     
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    Now, see? This is the problem. I am an atheist, and I am more respectful of other people's religious beliefs than a believer. It is their religious belief! And it's not that religious beliefs justifies everything. It's one thing if radical Muslims impose their religion on other as in the Charlie Ebdo case. But it's much different that the President of the United States unnecessarily taunts them.

    Moving the embassy is no reason. But doing so by ridiculing their beliefs is quite a different thing.

    Irrelevant. Read the OP
     
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    No! Throwing a Party. Taunting them. Ridiculing their religious beliefs in their own land. That's the idiotic action.

    As usual, you jump into a debate without understanding what it's about.
     
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    Trump wanted to prove he was smarter and braver than the presidents before him. He only proved he was dumber than all the presidents before him who knew what the outcome would be.
     
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    being taunted is an idiotic action if you're that primitive in stupid then you're not going to live very long and we're not talking about their own land there is no Palestine.

    well it's about Donald Trump and how much you hate his stinking guts and wants to blame everything bad that ever happens on the planet on him.

    Your OP was a lie. No Palestinians were killed because Palestinians are like leprechauns they don't exist there's no Palestine. Hamas pieces of s*** were killed for attacking.

    Yes we should party we should go out we should provoke them so they attack more so we can kill more of them. Hamas who these 61 people were a part of should be exterminated.

    And if celebrating the death of these f****** Nazis is a way to kill a more of them we should do it.

    You are not intelligent in the slightest you are just a contrarian you think what you were programmed to think. Because the Democrats do or think something you think it's gold even if it's terrible.
     
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    See? Here is the problem when discussing this with Republicans. They are so clueless about what goes on in the world, it's just a waste of time.

    If there is anything that Palestinians don't need is somebody to pay them to go violent.

    The whole world wishes that were so! It would spare us about half the problems in the world. But it doesn't work like that. Most Palestinians really, actually, and profoundly... hate Israelis. Just like most Israelis hate Palestinians. They don't need payment to hate Israelis. They are taught to hate Israelis the day they are born. If you don't understand this fact, you don't understand the whole Middle East conflict in the least. And your remark about somebody "paying" Palestinians to attack Israelis is a definite sign that you don't.

    Unfortunately, you will have to research the Israeli-Palestinian conflict on your own. I have no time to teach you...
     
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    he did. Jerusalem is the capital it has been for the entire duration of that country's existence.

    dead Hamas scumbags what's wrong with dead, scumbags I want them exterminated.
     
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    We should allow Hamas threats of violence and getting g their own people killed dictate our foriegn policy?
     
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    And when all you have left is specious condescension you have nothing.
     
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    As in, it's our fault for making terrorists mad. Gotcha.
     
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    I like the way you think. I don't share it, but I like it. Because it's so convenient for me.

    You value "winning" in something, as significant to other things other than what person won at. You conclude that since Trump beat Hillary in the elections, then Trump is more intelligent than Hillary. Love it!

    You see.... the way we know somebody has won a debate is that one person provides arguments and the other has no response. So they go off on musings about unrelated things. In this case, my message explains with arguments why Trump screwed up with his "gloating Party". And on your response, instead of referring to that, you start rambling senselessly about Hillary.

    So, you had no response to my arguments. Here is my accomplishment: I beat you in a debate. Following your reasoning, how would that apply in the case of you vs me? Obviously not to well for you. This "accomplishment" won't make me President, or anything like that. But, from your perspective, it most certainly elevates me greatly.
     

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