How do we heal the political divisions in America?

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  1. mitchscove

    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    In socialist countries there is no private ownership. The government owns the means of production ,, like Cuba:


    cubanmemorial.jpg

    I did mention the war machine which is a government function across all forms of government and roads and bridges, also a government function across all forms of government.
     
  2. Moonglow

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    In WWII the govt. did own the means of production since they were paying for it.Albeit only temporary.
     
  3. mitchscove

    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    Of course they did, as I said they did. And they probably would have killed a factory owner who didn't cooperate with the war effort. The government also poured an unsustainable amount of money into the war effort. But, I doubt you were referring to WWII when you originally claimed your family benefited from socialism during the Great Depression.
     
  4. MMC

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    :roll:


    A Short Guide to Leftist Conspiracy Theories


    The male conspiracy theory.


    The racist white conspiracy theory.


    The Social Custom Conspiracy theory.


    You didn't want to say the leftness didn't have Conspiracy theories did you Atwater? Only an Alt leftist/illiberal would even consider such a thought.
     
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    MMC Well-Known Member

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    The same was said with the Civil War.

    Unfortunately…..it will take another. Then there will be some sort of healing after the leftness loses massive amounts of their kind left laying in the streets from coast to coast.

    There isn't any compromise on ideology. None. The left only leads to moving towards Socialism and Communism. Once defeated.....they will only be left with one thought. How they were always failures waiting to happen.

    Then they will understand fully how they never were the Elite.
     
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  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I may be using the Internet in general as a bellwether, this site is actually rather mild when compared to most rightists, like Alex Jones or Rush.

    Obama's main thing, his healthcare plan, was YOUR healthcare plan, being virtually identical to what Mitt Romney had approved of in his Presidential bid, You guys were foursquare against it from the git go once Obama proposed it, (I wonder why). Don't tell me it's not personal. (in fact, don't tell me it doesn't go even deeper than that. I never saw anything like Charlottesville under ANY other conservatives and especially not ever saw it APPROVED of by the President himself.)
     
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  7. Kode

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    You're confused. Are you saying that anyone who disagrees with your brand of politics is a "communist"? LOL!!!!
     
  8. Kode

    Kode Well-Known Member

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    I think I have proven long ago that you really have zero understanding of what, exactly, a communist is. And that is why, to you, everyone who disagrees with you is a "communist".
     
  9. ButterBalls

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    Like I said, the heartland was about policy, economics, opportunity and jobs. They weren't blaming the left voters they were disappointed in Mr. Obatards, failure to create living wage jobs in infrastructure "Shovel Ready" as it were.. His blatant regard for illegals and disregard for Americans was a turn off also, but even then the right weren't going out of their way to continually insult and badger the left like the campaign the leftist party subscribed to!

    Like I say, you are using social media righties as a bellwether and "We" are hardly the rust belt, bible belt and heart landers that CBS, NBC, ABC took you'all nasty insults and bombed them with during their 8PM dinners and after a 16 hour work day..
     
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  10. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Stupid humans always need a common enemy. What we need is an E.T. enemy to unite us. Using our brains won't cut it :p
     
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    So you agree with my point in the OP where I said:
    @Texan in post 31, @logical1 in post 58, and @Soupnazi in post 68 (to name a few) fully disagree with you on this. Yet they couldn't name one MSM news source that was actually fair and balanced.
     
  12. Kode

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    So you don't agree that highly partisan "news and commentary" sources have been the main driver of this division?
     
  13. ButterBalls

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    Only if you admit that the leftist wing media had much to do with pissing off the middle of the nation with over the top insults towards them and their way of life!
     
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  14. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    You're treating baseless right wing propaganda as fact and ignoring utterly the most vicious campaign of lies and calumny against anyone I can remember seeing in a fairly long life supplemented by years of academic study, but then again I guess I'm doing the same or similar in your eyes. Which was largely my point, we might be able to change all this polarisation if we we simply made an effort to see the world from our opponent's eyes, but we may have become too different as people already to do that.
     
  15. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Can you give us some examples of these insults you seem so upset about? (And something besides the "basket of deplorables" that was a gaffe and a bad one but just one thing, not several)
     
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    You redirecting man :) Did Hillary not call the middle of the U.S. deplorable? Does the late night and left wing media not insult the heart lander in almost ever monologue night after night to this very day?

    You might want to be realistic. The right can see thru lies, OR are you going to INSULT their intelligent like the good Leftist you are :) The right don't like having their way of life belittled and that is the main theme of everything leftist entertainment.

    Left wing entertainment is and has always been at the expense of someone alien to them, well unless its an actual illegal alien LOL
     
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    Ah the Sun Tsu method. A man that does not know his opponents argument does not know half of his own.
     
  18. ButterBalls

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    Nah, I'm going to kowtow to you because reality isn't something you will embrace! Just watch peeps like Maher, Kimmel, Madcow, ANYTHING CNN, Oliver, The View, Giffen, Madonna, and the dozens of Hollywood pompous elitist the left hold high :)
     
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    Yes I notice that from your criticism of the U.S. while posting from one of the most corrupt, sexually violent and deadly countries on the planet!

     
  20. perdidochas

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    I'm not sure what happened. I don't think we can deliberately stop it, I think it has to slowly fade out. I wish we could go back to the point where political differences could be less important in terms of interpersonal life.
     
  21. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    I watch some of them and i've not seen them insult anyone besides Trump. Could you give us some examples of what you mean?
     
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    There is such a huge demand and market for news and commentary of this kind, unfortunately. It's not as simple as blaming the media, because it's really a mutually fed, reciprocal kind of dynamic between them and their audience, and of course their audience go on to influence public opinion in general just as much as the media do through word of mouth online and off. It's all an unstoppable storm system of sorts. Might as well try to stop a hurricane forming as try to stop people polarizing and whipping themselves up into partisan division and hatred.
     
  23. perdidochas

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    You must not watch for comprehension. I've seen them insult Cruz, Sessions, and a variety of others. When GW Bush was President, they were pretty vicious to him as well.
     
  24. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    There are some people who think we should reinstate the Fairness Doctrine, and I do think it notable that we got along perfectly well under it until 1987 which is just about when all this crap started.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/nancy-graham-holm/bring-back-the-fairness-d_1_b_4775492.html

    OTOH you'd have to abolish most cable news and talk radio, as well as several comedians
     
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  25. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    We can't insult, that is, criticize, politicians anymore? I was talking about the insults to "middle Americans" everyone was talking about
     

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