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  1. Equality

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    No patent granted, free to the world . I give it you all free.

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    Neat....
     
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    There is no such a thing as free energy and your video is a fake.
     
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    Whereas the intricate details of the OP is absolute validity?
     
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    I said there is no such as thing as free energy. The op is nonsense.
     
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    That was my point.
     
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  7. Equality

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    It is not nonsense, the idea is worth the pursuit for somebody.
     
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    Why not construct a device yourself and be a millionaire? Or are you still working on your peer r viewed paper from a lregious “idea” you had?
     
  9. Liberty Monkey

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    Does bypassing the electric meter count as free energy?
     
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    You can always put a coil up near a high voltage power line and tap that source of 'free' energy or hooked up gym treadmills to provide power.

    Footnote as a kid I once used a small DC motor as a generator being driven by the water pressure in the home to light up a few small bulbs.

    Work great until my parents got their next water bill.
     
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    No it's nonsense, ENTROPY!
     
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    Entropy isn't actually a fundamental law of the universe. It's more like a statistical tendency. More like an implicit property than a basic fundamental one, which means a little caution has to be exercised before assuming it's automatically true under all situations.
     
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    I have no money or technicians, I am not Nasa , why don't you build it!
     
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    On a very theoretical level, it could work. But on a practical level it almost assuredly wouldn't. You're trying to turn imbalances that are very miniscule into an imbalance on a comparatively much larger scale.

    The concept outlined in the op does not create energy out of nothing. If it worked (which it wouldn't) it would simply be converting ambient heat energy into electric current. There would be a very minute decrease in temperature.
     
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    Yes, the op idea is certainly fake.

    However, I think one could consider solar energy as free.

    For all these solutions one must buy parts.

    If the part you buy is a solar panel, I think you're in business!
     
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    I would say the majority of people who automatically say that say so out of arrogant ignorance.
    Yes, it wouldn't work, but not for the simple reason you assume.
     
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    oic - so what reason is it that I'm assuming?
     
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    That you make the automatic assumption that any "free energy" concept must be fake.

    (Don't misunderstand me, I'm not a free energy nut. I'm pretty sure none of those free energy designs you commonly see out there work)
     
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    So, you're making the same assumption that you rudely ascribed to me???

    Remember that I actually proposed a free energy solution!
     
  20. Equality

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    Well I guess I could create a black hole, worm hole or big bang instead, but I think that would just defeat the object and probably destroy the Universe. In looking for a form of zero point energy, minuscule is good and never a bad thing to begin with.
     
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    For you, but the energy isn't free for the power company.
     
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    There ain't no such thing as a free lunch (or free energy).
     
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    Solar energy is far from free. You have to buy a solar panel and various electric assemblies.
     
  24. WillReadmore

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    Right, but the power company has to charge for distribution, maintenance, measurement of individual use, etc. Their problem isn't limited to creation of the power. Even if the power were free, a centralized power facility would have to charge its customers.

    And, they have to obtain huge amounts of power, which requires sources which have proven to be scalable.
     
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    Well, all these ideas of "free" power have excused/ignored the requirement for buying parts such as the ones you mention.
     

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