America Is Superior | Change My Mind

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  1. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, it means refugees don't know how to swim.
     
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    No, I don’t have to know the exact figure the US should be spending to know it doesn’t have to be more than seven countries combined. Especially when some of those countries are China and Russia.
     
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    But I thought you got your figure from Wikipedia???
     
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    I guess that’s why lots of them are actually better than us in certain departments, somewhat more stable and talk sht about us.
     
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    My point is I see where the money is flowing. You’re going after a crumb, when there’s a massive pie to be had. If you want significantly lower prices go after the source! IE price gouging and free market forces where the demand will NOT opt out because their lives depend on it. It’s unethical. (Example, the price hike on epi pens, literally to 600 dollars for a packet. Why? BECAUSE THEY CAN AND PEOPLE WILL PAY BECAUSE ITS A MATTER OF LIFE AND DESTH).

    I’m all for companies making money. But enough with this squeezing of every last dollar to the bottom line, at the expense of everyone.

    I’m with you. Prices are insane. But I want people to focus on the issues. I’m telling you, I’d take a 20% pay cut if it’d drop costs 80%. The maths aren’t there, not without getting these companies to behave.
     
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    Ummm... no...
     
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    Why not?
     
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    Much of the price gouging is due to the healthcare provider industry being systematically divorced from the end consumer's ability to afford their products and services. it's almost entirely a Third Party Payer system now (Obamacare only exacerbated the problem)....as it is, the healthcare provider industry doesn't care if you, me and the mailman can afford what they're selling, they only care if the government and the insurance companies can afford what they're selling.

    there are no real organic price controls, and as long as they never have to appeal to the end consumers ability to afford their products and services, there never will be.
     
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  9. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    YOU are the problem in their view.

    The machine will not communicate.
     
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    Don't care to.
     
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    most Americans I know want to fix flaws try just disagree on how to go about it.
     
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    I'm not sure that's a relevant concern. Loads of things could happen. What does happen should be the concern.

    Flaws noted I still think it's better than direct democracy, because that is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner
     
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    So do you think China's spending is enough for defense?
     
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    True, as a superior you shouldn't be bothered with the effort.

    For the greater good!

     
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    Call it what you will, most people living under it actually would not have it any other way. You need not pity me as my President is no wolf. A flawed politician yes, but not a wolf.
     
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    Those are decisions and datums you have established.

    They may not match mine.

    Why do you wish to force me to comply with your standard of happiness?

    In our current system, are you not free to obtain happiness in the format you find most gratifying?
     
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    No I stand by a live-and-let-live philosophy
     
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    well certainly not the majority because the majority gets to rule.

    I didn't say s*** about your president I was talking about the fundamentals of democracy.

    It's just tyranny through mob rule.
     
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    So you’re ok with gay marriage, women being able to have a choice when it comes to abortions and legalizing pot?
     
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    It's not gay marriage. It's just marriage when I get in my car and drive to work I don't gay drive a car.

    Yes I believe in equality of same-sex couples when it comes to marriage.

    Since abortion is killing that is not Live and Let Live it is taking a life and that's why I don't agree with it.
     
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    No I don't establish datums. I merely accumulate them and call it knowledge. if they don't match yours, then enlighten me.

    Quality of life and happiness are two entirely different things. That you don't see that is sad.
     
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    Not sure about November but Trump will not win in 2020 if he continues to maintain the trade war. His hardcore anti abortion moves of late will not do him any favors either.
     
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    I hate to burst your bubble but - humans must kill life to survive.

    If you are referring to "human life" - you killed human life while typing the above post "oh those poor living human skin cells".

    Oh .. and don't forget all that human life you killed last time you choked the chicken. Did you cry for lives of all those sacred sperm ? I thought not.
     
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    China's military weapons and infrastructure are mirror images of ours. Almost all of it was stolen from the US. Since much of our defense budget goes to research and development, China can shave off billions, if not trillions, of dollars and years of research from their defense budget. If I was the top dog in charge, I would expel the Chinese from all our research universities, and from positions within the military. Lying, thieving, cheats.
     
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    That wouldn't be PC though.
     
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