Findings that Russia meddled to help Trump beat Clinton were 'accurate and on point': Senate intel

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  1. ThorInc

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    This "statement" does not debate or address what I actually posted. Try again, tks.
     
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    How so? State taxes are not his doing.

    The "blue areas" have been having the "red areas" subsidize their Federal taxes with deductions in their excessive state taxes.
     
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    I understand the discomfort this must cause. Hankies are cheap.
     
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    Do your research and focus on the tax cuts and how it affected specific rich Blue states.
     
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    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'd bet that not one single Hillary supporter decided to vote for Trump on election night. Why can't you guys just deal with the fact that liberal ideals have become so unpopular that they cost the left an election?
     
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    I'm not afraid of anything ... And yes, I am citing RT's pro democratic socialist propaganda, and their glorification of DNC candidates who vow to IMPEACH Trump, and who propose dismantling ICE. Funny, but it sounds like Vlad is a pro democratic socialist, not a republican puppet master.
     
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    Where was Hillary mentioned in the post you quoted? Hellooooo?
     
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    "The lady protests too much".......using RT to try to make some point is barrel bottom diving. And, your desperate need to mis-characterizing RT's motives speaks volumes as to your own motives.
     
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    No it's not fine. But neither is it fine to use the power of your country to fuel your personal ego/whims. And no, I don't feel anyone is justified to smear someone else. I have no problem with people accurately reporting on whats actually happening, but smearing is out of line, even at that level. But again, you seem to feel that it's ok to use the power of your Govt to fight your personal battles. I thought that only Liberals used Govt for their own purposes in such a manner? Say it ain't so...

    As for China, well you can blame Clinton and the Republicans at the time for giving China 'Favored Nation Status' and entry into the WTO.

    But honestly, if you don't like the Tariffs, then he should have done what he says he does best. Negotiate. I mean, he got a US China Trade Agreement over financial services and other components https://www.bbc.com/news/business-39894119(which is why you don't hear him calling them Currency Manipulators anymore), so why couldn't he have parlayed that into more? Why the sudden need to appear 'tough'? Mid-terms? More fodder for the base?
     
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    Stop whining about about a rigged election.

     
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    You mean like presenting "likes" and "shares" on FB as evidence of Russia backing Trump? Yeah, that's kinda the gist of my argument professor. 'Course Mueller's only wasting million$ investigating one completely irrelevant Russian propaganda effort ... Biased? Oh yes, but perhaps becoming more frugal ... that's some consolation to taxpayers.
     
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    Do you believe that? Like, truly and honestly believe that?
     
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    Far better than bending over and taking it for 8 years as your guy did.

    And yes Cubed, he was definitely your guy.

    I find it amusing how little you care about the differences in trade tariffs between the two countries but when a president tries to actually change it you snowflake out. Why is that?
     
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    I am not whining about a rigged election like that little bitch of a snowflake, Trump. I am correcting the record of another Trumpette who thinks he can blame Obama for Trump's enthusiasm to ignore, encourage, and collude with a foreign adversarial government.
     
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    I think Mueller's "team" might salvage the identity theft charges ... but the election interference? NOT. Liberals insist illegal foreigners have the same constitutional privileges US citizens have ... like the 1st (A) ... and these "entities" ... freedom of the press, right? The commies argument is that they were under the impression the US was a free and open society that didn't impose censorship, or persecute political dissent. Mueller's out to destroy that misconception eh? :frustrated:
     
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    Oh yeah, you realllllly took it hard from us. There was absolutely no reciprocation in any way right?

    Oh wait, that totally ignores the fact that you have an 8 billion dollar goods surplus with us. But yeah, Your the one taking it. Right.

    And who was my guy?

    I do care about the trade differences. You guys have a surplus in goods with us. Yet we are the bad guy cause we don't want you to flood our dairy market with your overly subsidized yet lower quality products? I thought the US and Trump were all about protectionism....?
     
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    So more desperate smoke to obfuscate lack of debate skills as well as propaganda sources. Let me break it down for you, if you have to go to RT to get the spin you desire, you are Putin's fodder & servant.
     
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    Riiiiight




    But remember, you don't whine about a rigged election right?
     
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    Can you actually explain what possible meaning that has to this conversation?

    Are you really claiming the Chinese do not have massive tariffs on our products? Think hard before you answer.

    Obama. Please don't make me embarrass you again and dig up your posts because you know I will.

    Spoken like a perfect partisan liberal.

    I understand this confuses you but when you negotiate you need to do it from a position of power and simply asking them not to screw us is not the answer.
     
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    Sounds more like you're whining about a rigged election. Maybe change your approach so you don't sound like the triggered snowflake?
     
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    That, again, was the Donald before Putin lifted him over the finish line. Hillary, Hillary????? ;)
     
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    Obama's my b**ch ...
     
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    Trump is Putin's b****.........and it's 2018.
     
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    What benefit does Russia have with Trump vs Clinton?
     
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    I missed the 'your guy' part. I thought you meant we were taking it from the US. And now I'm both amused and confused in that you think that Trade was all that much different under Obama then it was under Bush Jr. Heck, it was Clinton and the Republicans who gave China 'favored nation status' and entry into the WTO.

    K, I'm talking about Canada. Not China. Try and keep up.

    You giver. Obama was great in a lot of ways, and terrible in a lot of others. But he's still head and shoulders over your current POTUS

    Says you. Funny how your the only who thinks that about me.

    How do you not understand that you have an 8 billion dollar goods SURPLUS with us. How on earth is the US getting screwed by Canada?
     
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