Statistics on the use of firearms in the United States for the six months of 2018

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  1. QLB

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    How so?
     
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    They already have it. They're called Chicago, New Orleans, Gary, Camden, Philly etc.
     
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    Pray tell how so? How is every nation which is refusing to accept immigrants, wrong in their position?
     
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    I believe in free movement because it's the surest way to allow people to escape bad governance and to reward good governance with more manpower. In addition, I generally don't like states, nationalism, or non-decentralized power.
     
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    Why should I have to pay for free movement, especially when a lot of those are seeking free stuff of my back?
     
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    Over the past decade an average of 35,000 people have died from car accidents every year.
    So does this mean guns are safer that cars?
     
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    Because you have bigger fish to fry. Your boss ought to pay you more. Your government ought to stop funneling tens of billions into the military industrial complex just to make piece of **** overpriced weapons like the f-35. The sliver of a sliver of a sliver of your tax money thar goes to immigrants is inconsequential in comparison and those powerful people are psyched that your attention is fixed on it.
     
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    There's no real comparison. The R&D that goes into the MIC will also move into the civilian world. I don't get the same benefit from a wet crossing the Rio Grande. I know a bit about agriculture and how you don't really need them. The Pecos valley of NM and Texas produced huge amount of citrus, enough to rival California. The pickers and their families were huge burdens. Now they just grow hay, mostly one man operations that are highly automated and much more profitable. Once the automation is cheaper and more reliable they'll do the same with citrus and it's almost there.
     
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    I'm not talking about manpower in terms of production. Capital's runaway feedback loop has made human labor irrelevant to a large extent. I mean political manpower.
     
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    Don't buy it. You gotta bring some skin into the game. There's something you have to provide to not be dead weight. A voter without value is just that. Besides political manpower becomes rapidly expendable is not entirely reliable unless you have something to lose.
     
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    Human lives don't need to justify themselves. Do you interrogate a squirrel or a cat asking what value their existence brings? We're all coincidentally-existing agents in solar economy, receiving energy from the sun and dispersing it in accordance with entropy and nothing else. We are maggots on the corpse of the sun and that's lovely.

    Free movement incentives politicians to utilize the resources of government to benefit people, rather than subjugating us to a fascist-adjacent imperative to serve the state in order to justify life.
     
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    My pet Anatolians would beg to differ. The rest sounds like liberal gobbledegook and has no standing in the real world. There's never been a society in which free movement, one way or another has worked.
     
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    I'll admit that I'm delving into mysticism a bit, especially Georges Bataille and his concepts of the solar economy and the accursed share. But mysticism and the real world have a tighter relationship than most believe. On some level, we're all mythological creatures.
     
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    I have known some women that would truly equate to mythological creatures, both good and bad. BTW you never said how the smoke was? I never did get the anti-MJ laws at all.
     
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    Liberals provoke violence. Because they are crazy tolerant idiots. By the way, liberals provoke violence not only in the USA. They bear death all over the world. Liberals are starting wars.
     
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    Do not forget about Detroit. Previously the automotive capital of the United States, with advanced technology, thanks to the crazy liberals turned into Gotham.
     
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    Nah, they turned it into Somalia.
     
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    Of course. Weapons are safer than cars. And if you count the number of people killed by the virus of the plague, the plague is a completely innocuous virus.
     
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    :applause::applause::applause:
     
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    Nations hold sole authority in determining who may and may not be provided with legal entry, and the conditions of which. Those who seek to take up illegal residence, through illegal entry, and demand being catered to at the expense of citizens are devoid of a legitimate reason for being present.
     
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    I don't believe in the authority of the nation or that people need to justify their presence in a broad geographical region
     
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    Whether or not it is believed on the part of yourself is of no relevance. Such authority does exist, and individuals who wish to take up residence in foreign lands must comply with requirements put forth by the nation. There is no so-called "right" to go wherever you may wish, whenever you may wish, and for whatever reason. If you cannot just walk right into a private residence that belongs to a stranger, you cannot just walk right into a foreign nation either.
     
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    Rights and authority are granted by popular consensus and can be revoked.
     
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    That's as silly as saying that if you were hit by a truck you'd have a 50/50 chance of surviving over the truck driver.

    Secondly, DGU is not "waving" a gun at one's target.
     
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    I believe that flaw is explained in the following article:

    "Why the “Gun Violence Archive” Is Flawed From the Start"
    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/01/foghorn/gun-violence-archive-flawed-start/

    EXCERPT "The problem with gun control activists’ stance is that it isn’t backed by any actual hard numbers. They try to massage the figures to make them more emotionally appealing, but the fact remains that virtually every statisticproves the idea that — at the very least — guns are not the problem. With public opinion shifting against them, one group has now decided to try to make it seem that the numbers really are in their favor with a website they’ve dubbed the “Gun Violence Archive.” There’s just one problem: their methodology is flawed from the start . . ."CONTINUED


    It's impossible to calculate the number of rapes, homicides, muggings etc that have been prevented by an armed individual who did not fire his weapon
     
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