Lets disband the military. What are they protecting if they are not protecting our borders

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  1. not2serious

    not2serious Well-Known Member

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    We have one of the biggest military machines in the world, but we cannot keep us from currently being invaded. And to many cry babies that don't have the guts or courage to support protecting our nation from being invaded.

    So lets disband our military. The cost is huge, and we could reduce taxes by 35%, making one of the biggest economic boom since our inception as a nation.

    So the question comes down to this. WHO AND WHAT is our military defending against. We are being invaded by the south and it is not being stopped. So why have a military at all. What purpose are they providing? So lets delete them, take down our border and declare the USA an open country. Seems we have done all of that but disband the military. So lets get on with it and save money. We can have a government just like south and central America seem to be getting. It is coming here now, just will take a little longer.

    Again, think about it, what is our standing army providing for defense of our nation? NOTHING>
     
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    Just A Man Well-Known Member

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    But, but, but, then who would protect the borders of foreign countries?
     
  3. not2serious

    not2serious Well-Known Member

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    Why NOBODY. Our military is not protecting ours, so who would protect theirs?
     
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    We don't deploy the US military in the US.
     
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    The answer, then is to use the US military to secure our boarders. Of course, or liberal peeps will scream that they won't have access to the best or brightest landscapers, nannies, or their other essential services labor that they have become recently entitled to... We have only to look at the Jerry B debacle in CA.

    And for Margot... Yes, we can actually deploy US forces within our country. The oath actually notes that "all enemies, foreign and domestic"...
     
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    The funny thing is that no one is protecting us from the most successful attack on the US in history IE the Russian attack on our election system that is still ongoing.
     
  7. Dayton3

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    Really? You've forgotten Pearl Harbor? Or Sept. 11th, 2001?
     
  8. Texan

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    We should bring our troops home until other countries pay for their use, and that is only when it is in our interests. Border security would be a better use of those resources.
     
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    Obama knew about it and did nothing. It couldn't be all that serious.
     
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    The US could build semi-private mercenary units that could hire out to foreign countries for real good base pay, plus out of CONUS pay, plus combat pay for any combat performed in a month, plus bonuses every so often.

    That's better than making sworn-in volunteers to the USA serve other countries.
     
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    They protect the financial interests of corporations. Period.
     
  12. Texan

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    Anybody can fund mercs. We don’t need to get publicly involved that way. Too many liabilities.

    I’m talking about protecting trade ships to and from the US. The trade partners can share the burden of protecting the ships if they want to trade with us.

    We can take our missile defenses from Europe and put them on our coasts until they pay for their use.
     
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    Any method to keep sworn-in warriors who protect and defend the constitution here, and not over there serving a foreign country is good
     
  14. Texan

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    We don’t want publicly funded mercs. What happens when they rape or rob someone or get caught running drugs or guns?
     
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    Good point. A foreign country won't pay for them or use them unless they are really needed.

    But we got to stop giving foreign countries military welfare like we have been doing since WWI.
     
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    Our Troops do NOT Protect Our Freedom and We Should Stop Thanking Them for Doing So
    By Jesse Richard

    Let's make one thing crystal clear, no member of the US military contributes in any way whatsoever to protecting the freedoms of the American people. As a matter of fact, they are more likely to turn their weapons on you than they are to defend your Constitutional rights.

    The only people on this planet Earth who can affect your freedom are members of Congress, local legislators and the members of enforcement institutions who will blindly follow the rulers who sign their paychecks. And, while your beloved troops are murdering people around the globe, yes, I said murdering, your Congress and local legislators are eliminating your freedoms, en masse, without any intervention by our so-called protectors in the armed forces.

    Read the rest ...

    http://www.tvnewslies.org/tvnl/inde...e-should-stop-thanking-them-for-doing-so.html
     
  17. Moriah

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    How about we make Mexico the 51st state? Then we won't have to guard the border.
     
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    donald, is that you? Or are you just parroting the pathological-liar-in-chief?

    The truth is, illegal immigration is just a fraction of what it was in 2000

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    You're being played by the con man.
     
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    "Invasion of illegals" is just another Trump sucker play. But I digress. Out military extends American influence abroad. It's called hegemony AKA dominance. That's pretty good defense. When we misuse it, things get ugly.
     
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    And that needs to be reconsidered.
     
  21. Texan

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    I would consider it only after they clear out the cartels and allow civilians to have the same rights we enjoy.
     
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    What about the 20 million Americans who are overseas at any one time.
     
  23. Bob0627

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    Not without an Amendment, otherwise it would violate Article I Section 10 Paragraph 3 of the Constitution.
     
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    The US Military is like the guns I keep in the house. I don't have to use them to be protected by them. Just the knowledge that they are here keeps the bad guys away.
     
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    Incorrect. Cyberwarfare is a very big deal for our military and intelligence agencies. Just because politicians without security clearances do not understand it, doesn't mean nothing is being done.
     

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