Russia Has Been Our Only True Ally

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  1. stratego

    stratego Well-Known Member

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    Let's face it. NATO needs America, but America doesn't need NATO. Geographically, we're safe from an invasion. On the North is a weak Canada led by a even weaker Trudeau. You can pick on Canada all day long and they're not going Trudeau anything about it. On the South is a bankrupted Mexico who can't even cough up the money for the wall they promised. To the West is Hawaii and to the East are the NATO countries who never helps the US anyways.

    NATO doesn't spend money on their military and they fight among themselves. Historically our NATO "allies" never helped us, but we help them all the time. The only other country who put in the same sacrifice as America is Russia. When we were attacked in Pearl Harbor, our NATO "allies" didn't come to help. But when they were attacked by Nazi's we went over to help them. The only countries who put up a fight were the US and Russia. France was too busy surrendering. Britain cheered when Pearl Harbor happened. Germany was attacking us. Only Russia was fighting by our side.

    Even in the Cold War when Russia was our enemy, they were not our enemy. We competed to get to the moon, which by the way we won, and lay the path for Space Force. And we competed to get better Athletes. We never fought them.

    How do you think the next few weeks would pan out as President Trump wraps up his visit to our "allies" and start his visit to our true ally?
     
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    Russia aids Hezbollah which is an Islamist terrorist group.
     
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    Are you serous or are you trolling?
     
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    France helped secure this nation by fighting with us against the British..Hmm,, you must not know American history so you evidently are a Ruskie troll..
     
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    and Iran and Syria and other terrorist nations..
     
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    Whaaaaaa????????????????...........Go away Russion troll!
     
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    Hell Mr. Obatard built ISIL and then funneled money thru Iran to fund terrorist :) What was all that, some black ops to give NATO a purpose :)
     
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    He didn't build that..
     
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    Who told you that lie? Hannity?
     
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    Well technically true, but ignoring the JV team and then having to spend six years fighting them was clearly counter productive. But really, what would a punk ass community organizer really know about productivity ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    He did articulate well when not high..
     
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    Well unless the power or teleprompter failed, then he turned into pork the pig ;)
     
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    Since I was knee-high to a grasshopper, my grandfather (WWI vet) told me I would have to fight the Russians, that it was an inevitable war coming soon.

    Except for the Cuban missile crisis it has been pretty much a non-event.
     
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    I dont know about an ally, but we could make Russia an ally.
     
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    Revolutionary war..
     
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    Go away I'm all out of lollypops.
     
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    Well it was Chuck Todd actually :) I bolded the SPINDANGO Mr. Obatard speech writers prepared for the Boy King ;)
     
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    OP, I think you need a history lesson.

    That's the only thing you're right on, NATO is obsolete.

    Except to gain America's independence from the British, which is kind of the whole reason it exists in the first place.

    WW2 was going on for 2 years already and you were just chilling on your island doing nothing about YOUR allies who were getting their asses kicked. And you have the gall to blame them for not helping you after they've taken heavy losses, when you're finally the ones getting attacked?

    Erm...Britain? And all the remaining troops from defeated countries that joined them?

    Yeah, that's kind of what happens when you're in the first line of fire of something like Nazi Germany. Wow, the French are such *******, losing to a far superior army with no preparation, while you were soo brave having 5 years to prepare chilling on your continent with no threat to it.

    Seriously, I'm all for the US being allies with Russia, but this rant denigrating your European allies is both ignorant and sick.

    Especially since Europe is against NATO themselves! Why do you think they voted "no" to the European constitution? A major reason is that they want NATO out of their business, because they know the elites that control America and want nothing to do with their foreign wars.
     
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    This is nonsense. Russia did not have anything to do with Hezbollah until the war in Syria started... and Hezbollah was willing to kill the Islamist terrorist rebel opposition.

    Get a grip.
     
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    You have to be a troll.

    " Historically our NATO "allies" never helped us, but we help them all the time."

    Never underestimate the absurdity of Trumpsters.

    Article 5 of the NATO charter has only been invoked once. Then, our European allies came to the support and defense of the United States after 9/11. Indeed, the bulk of Allied forces in Afghanistan during most of the 2000's were NATO troops, not American ones. They were fighting our war in Afghanistan, while Bush and Cheney were staring and losing their war in the wrong country.

    "How do you think the next few weeks would pan out as President Trump wraps up his visit to our "allies" and start his visit to our true ally?"

    I expect that Putin will remind Trump once again, that he expects the sanctions to be lifted. And he will remind Trump of how much of his real estate is mortgaged to Putin's friends.
     
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    the Iranians have been an AMAZING ally against ISIS
     
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    Literally the only time in history the common defense clause of NATO has ever been invoked was for Afghanistan and NATO answered America’s call.

    To say our allies in NATO have never helped us is a deliberate lie.

    You are aware NATO didn’t exist when Pearl Harbor happened right? Are you really going to claim Britain didn’t fight by our side in WW2?

    Is this really what passes for historical analysis among Trump worshippers?
     
  23. stratego

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    We fought by their side in Europe. They didn't fight by our side in the Pacific. It was just Russia and the US.
     
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    They didn’t fight by our side in the Pacific? Just to be clear, you are standing by that claim?

    I’m wanting to know how badly to embrace you.
     
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    You do know that Russia wasn’t even involved in the Pacific until a week before the war ended, right?
     

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