Why the Russians wanted Trump to be President ?

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  1. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    With the recent indictment in the Mueller investigation - plus those already charged last fall and the hacking of the Democratic server - it is obvious that Putin put a lot of energy into getting Trump elected.

    Yet the Conservatives have never been able to explain why.

    Any idea ?
     
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    Sorry the russia thing is a leftist fantasy. Youre supposed to tell us why russsia did it.
     
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    What makes you think they wanted Trump to be President ? Since Obama knew about the meddling and did nothing about it.

    Sounds like they were for Hillary . Maybe they added some extra votes for her . Too bad they didn't understand our EC system .
     
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    And you believe them?
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what?
     
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    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Imo they did not like hillary, and thought the best case outcome would be to seriously weaken her as president and weaken the country by by inflaming divisions
     
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    All the people who were indicted were paid by the Russian government to promote Trump on the internet or hacked the DNC server.
     
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    The mostly Republican Senate Intelligence Committee concluded that Russia hacked into our election with the intent to help elect Trump. Looks like it worked.
     
  9. Russell Hellein

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    I doubt they did. They had little impact on the election. I think they just want to cause chaos.
     
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    Bernie or Stein too.
     
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    The Russian activity started in March and April 2016 which is long before Trump was a serious candidate. Trump didn't actually announce he was a candidate until June 2016. At that time, no one seriously believed he would ever be president.

    A lot of people were joking about the missing Hilary e-mails and Trump was not the first to suggest that maybe the Russians could find them.
     
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    It was a lot of failed energy since it had zero impact on the election.

    If you want to know why he did it its probably because Hillary organized protests against Putin when he was running for re-election while she was secretary of state.

    Payback is a bitch isn't it?

    She ought not have kicked that hornet's nest.
     
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    there is little evidence the russians had any influence on the vote. The real question is why they tried to influence them
     
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    Who cares which candidate any country wants. So now tell me how many Russians voted?
     
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    Riddle me this lefties,
    1. The Ruskies hacked the DNC and Hillary's email server.
    2. That would give them potentially important information on her.
    3. Hillary was guaranteed to win.
    4. Would the Ruskies not then have a club to hold a over Hillary's head to be used at a opportune time after she became president? .
    5. Why would they give a **** about a guy that was gonna lose?
     
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    Yeah, they didn't give a flying f*ck what Putin wanted or Mexico wanted or Merkel wanted or NK waned or China wanted...

    THEY (patriotic America loving people) did not want globalist, America-hating, violent open-borders, pro-outsourcing liberal scum which worshipped a Vermont lunatic and was led by the Washington swamp criminal to continue destroying the country for four more years.

    Next question.
     
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    Don't forget -- Hillary broke the law by having a private computer server. But don't charge her. But now we indict the people who hacked her illegal server. Meanwhile the MSM and dems say it was all Trump's fault.
     
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    So did Colin Powell and lots of other people. Its a rule that has been violated a lot.
     
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    Only Hilary had her own private server. Colin Powell did use a private e-mail. The big difference is that she stored and sent and received classified information on this private server which violates the most fundamental security regulations that you can only store classified information in a location which is approved for that purpose.
     
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    Simple.

    The theory is that Putin has something on Trump. Financial or sexual. Trump has bent over backwards not to criticize Putin. Trump has zero problem criticizing every other world leader, including traditional allies who have faught by our side. Trump has shown by paying off Stormy that he is susceptible to blackmail.

    There is just something strange going on.
     
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    Yes.

    But all the Conservatives here say Hillary/Obama was soft on Russia.

    And Trump boasts to be the toughest President in history with Putin.

    Then why did the Russians choose to support Trump?
     
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    ... So she could have had Putin's help if she hadn't supported his opponents in Russia.
     
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    -end sanctions on Russia.

    -recognize Crimea as part of Russia.

    -destabilize NATO and the EU.

    -allow Russia free-reign in Syria.

    -increase oil prices


    this was Russia's goal.
     
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    And Trump insists on meeting Putin privately in Helsinki, without his advisors.

    Stranger still.
     
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    Don’t play dumb. During the election trump was openly calling for being friendly towards Russia whilst Hillary was all but advocating open war with them. Who the flying **** do you think they would support between those 2 choices? Who would you? Given a similar situation.

    It really is that simple. There isn’t some deep secret conspiracy or Machiavellian scheme to explain it. I’m sorry the real world isn’t like your game of thrones movies and what not. But you’ll have to deal with that.
     
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